The Jenny Beth Show

The Perpetrators of the Border Crisis | Ben Bergquam, Frontline America & Real America's Voice

Episode Summary

Jenny Beth sits down with Ben Bergquam at Turning Point Action's Restoring National Confidence Summit in Las Vegas, Nevada. Ben is the founder of Frontline America and an investigative reporter for Real America's Voice. Ben has spent the last decade exposing the crisis on America's southern border.

Episode Notes

Jenny Beth sits down with Ben Bergquam at Turning Point Action's Restoring National Confidence Summit in Las Vegas, Nevada. Ben is the founder of Frontline America and an investigative reporter for Real America's Voice. Ben has spent the last decade exposing the crisis on America's southern border.

Twitter/X: @BenBergquam | @RealAmVoice | @jennybethm

Website: https://frontlineamerica.com/

Episode Transcription

Ben Bergquam (00:00):

But this is the reality of it. These women that are coming are being raped. The children that are coming are being raped. They're being sold, they're being trafficked. There is modern day slavery happening at a scale we've never seen before in this country.

Narrator (00:11):

Keeping our Republic is on the line, and it requires Patriots with great passion, dedication, and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms. Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots. She's an author, a filmmaker, and one of time magazine's most influential people in the world. But the title she's most proud of is Mom to Her Boy, girl to Twins. She has been at the forefront fighting to protect America's core principles for more than a decade. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show.

Jenny Beth Martin (00:43):

This episode of the Jenny Beth Show was recorded on Radio Row at Turning Point Actions Restoring National Confidence Summit in Las Vegas. Ben Bergham is the founder of Frontline America and an investigative reporter for real America's voice. Ben has spent extensive time covering the southern border and has done an incredible job exposing just how dangerous a border really is. I'm so excited about our next guest. It's Ben Berquam, who is now with real America's voice, but he's been part of the Tea Party movement since 2009 when we began, which is 15 years now.

Ben Bergquam (01:18):

That's wild. It's wild to think about the time, how fast it goes and everything that's happened in between.

Jenny Beth Martin (01:24):

Yes. And you were from the Central Valley in California. You were in our Tea Party documentary back in 2009, and we went through and did the farmer relay at the end of 2009 and ended right before Thanksgiving in the Central Valley helping raise awareness for the issue, the water management issue that was going on there at the time.

Ben Bergquam (01:47):

Yeah, really it's the attack by the radical environmentalists against farming in the Central Valley of California, and that was, they basically went and destroyed an entire industry, and it's what they've basically become. It's the radical environmentalists, the climate change, the religion of climate change. It's really an industry killer. They did it with timber harvesting years ago in the community where I grew up, and then now they were doing it and they're still doing it with the agriculture. And so that was my first taste into politics. I was a graduate student at Fresno State at the time, and I was involved in politics and saw the direction our country was going and said, this is not right. And I was honored to be able to be a part of it, the youth spokesperson at the time. And then fast forward, really it's the Tea Party movement that made way for the MAGA movement and President Trump, we saw the horrors of Barack Obama and that whole shift, that pendulum shift back to the right and through the Tea Party and then ultimately is what gave us Donald Trump the first time. And so it's been an amazing ride. And then at the same time though through, I can't believe it, if you'd have told me where we are today versus where we were then, how far the left has gone towards insanity, pure evil, I would've said no way. It couldn't happen that fast

Jenny Beth Martin (03:12):

Radical transformation of America.

Ben Bergquam (03:15):

I mean, Barack Obama said that's what they were going to do and

Jenny Beth Martin (03:17):

They did it. And that's what's happened now. Right now, anyone who's following you online really knows your focus on the border. We you t Pretty Ps, Steve Bannon, all of us have been paying attention to the border issues since 2013, 2014. So we paid a lot of attention to, we did a documentary about the border back in 2014. Then Donald Trump comes down that escalator and says he's going to build a wall and people pay attention to, he turned that in. He truly was a leader because we're sitting there trying to get attention for it, and he comes out and drives the entire nation to pay attention to this issue. And now we see with Biden complete lawlessness when it comes to the border and the issues that are happening there. What do you think about what we've seen with the border over the last 10 years or so from when we first started paying attention to it really through the Trump presidency to now?

Ben Bergquam (04:18):

Well, originally this was a bipartisan failure. It was Democrats wanting the cheap labor, or excuse me, the easy votes and power. It was Republican and particularly the Chambers of Commerce, which have become the establishment rhino wing of the Republican party that wanted the cheap labor. And it was not until President Trump that you had somebody come along and say, wait a second, this is not good for America. It's not good for either side. And he actually did it and kept his promises, did more than anyone else to actually secure our country. You saw Barack Obama basically open the doors, use the refugee resettlement program through the Office of Refugee Resettlement as the Trojan horse to invite millions of illegal, mainly Muslim jihadist from jihadist countries into the Northeast. And so we've seen Michigan transformed, we've seen Wisconsin transform, we've seen Minneapolis, Minnesota transformed, all of that was Barack Obama and before him as well.

(05:21):

But Barack Obama really exacerbated it. Then President Trump came along and said, wait, this is not good for America. He was attacked for it. He was de domained for it from the left, but also from the right, the Paul Ryans of the world, they did more to hamper his movement and to actually stop it. But he still, through executive order, did more than any other president. And then you see now it's gone from a crisis to pure treason. You have Joe Biden, you have Secretary Marcus, and you have this organization of leftist groups across America, NGOs, non-governmental organizations that are not just profiting off the invasion of America, but they're orchestrating it. They are, they're working globally to train people to or game the immigration system. It's immigration fraud, but it's worse than that because they know what they're doing. And the real question is that I think most Americans probably don't even think about, but needs to be asked and needs to be investigated is Mexico is for all intents and purposes a failed narco state.

(06:22):

How many politicians in America are also now corrupted by the cartels? And that's really where some focus needs to be held. When we take power back, and I pray we do this year, we've got to do some investigations. We've got to first defund the United Nations, the U-N-H-C-R, which is the catalyst, the driver for most of this, and then all of the other tentacles that go down through Catholic Charities, Lutheran Social Services, Jewish Family Services, and a hundred other organizations like alo, tr Pueblo Centrales, that are all part of this mechanism. It's a global, illegal alien industry. Now, all of those, they need to be dismantled. They need to be defunded, dismantled, and prosecuted. And that's really the next step where we need to go

Jenny Beth Martin (07:08):

Because if that doesn't happen, there are no consequences for it. And if there are no consequences for it, it will continue to happen.

Ben Bergquam (07:15):

That's right. Yeah. And this is, it's

Jenny Beth Martin (07:17):

Truly

Ben Bergquam (07:17):

Lawless. And I think in the past we've gave people the benefit of the doubt on both sides and said, okay, well, it's really not that bad. Okay, these guys are using it for political gain. Nobody really wants to fix the problem. Now we see where you have Democrats, open borders, Democrats, who are not just ignorant to the issue, they are complicit in the invasion. They are working against America. They know what they're doing is putting America at harm. And that is they're breaking their number one oath that they took to the Constitution and the citizens of the United States. And to me, it's the definition of treason. That's what we're up against. And sadly, you've got Republicans, not all of them. You've got some fighters, but you've got too many of them. The Langfords of the world who will go with the Democrats, I mean this bill that's just come out that they're proposing is a slap in the face of the intelligence of America to say that we're going to go from the worst invasion we've ever seen, 300,000 illegals coming across a month to somehow it's better to guarantee that we're going to see in perpetuity 150,000 a month.

(08:23):

We can't have

Jenny Beth Martin (08:23):

That.

Ben Bergquam (08:23):

It's the death.

Jenny Beth Martin (08:24):

Death of our country can't have is the death of our country, and we absolutely cannot have it. And it bothers me so much because it's rewarding lawlessness within the administration. There are no consequences to Biden. It's up to say, oh, well, you can just keep doing it forever and anyone else who wants to can as well. There were no laws that changed, no law that changed between Trump and Biden, none. And Trump was able to secure the border, and Biden has turned it into open border. And in fact, there really were no laws that were changed between Obama and Trump and Biden because we've been trying, and the left has been trying something different. So the law just never has changed.

Ben Bergquam (09:07):

So what's happened is the laws are already there. That's what's crazy about this is they just have to be enforced. And we had Obama who didn't enforce that. Now he did deport a lot of people. He got credited for deporting more people than even Trump. But the difference was he wasn't even letting some of them across the border. He was basically selectively allowing people in and before they even came in and were authorized to come into the country, he would just send them back across. But Joe Biden has taken that model and said, everybody can come. And basically he is breaking the law. The Secretary Marus is breaking the law. President Trump really was the first one to go in and truly enforce the law and say, we're not only going to do that through his power as the executive, we're going to even go beyond that.

(09:54):

The problem with that is as soon as you get a new executive, they can come in and undo some of what he put into place. And so that's why we really do need Congress. We need a Republican Congress. And now you have guys like Federman who's actually coming out shockingly and supporting Board of Security. We've got to have them come together and say, this is a nonpartisan issue. This is a national security issue. This is a success of our nation and our children's future issue. We've got to come together and fix this. But I really, sadly, I don't see any change until President Trump's back in office, until we actually take it back. And until then, we are slow bleeding America, our prosperity, our future, our children's future. And it is, people need to understand this. It's not by accident. This is by design.

Jenny Beth Martin (10:38):

No, there's nothing unless you've been down there, it's hard to understand. But when you go and see it firsthand, you just realize this is deliberate. This is very well organized. This many people don't move across the way that it's happening.

Ben Bergquam (10:54):

Just they're invited in, they're coming

Jenny Beth Martin (10:56):

In, they're flying into Mexico, they're flying in from all over the world, and they're not flying here to America because they can't actually get into America through our airports.

Ben Bergquam (11:07):

Right? It's so crazy insane, crazy, insane. It's insane. The best way I like to think about it is like tributaries of a river. There is this international, global, illegal immigration industry now where you've got these organizations, NGOs and the cartels now working together in hundreds of countries around the world with these pipelines, and they basically teach people how to come. And then as people come, then they send word back to their family and they say, this is how we did it. And so you have some people flying into Brazil, some people flying into Columbia, some people flying into Ecuador, some people flying directly into Mexico, some into Nicaragua, and they all get on this pipeline, and they ultimately all get distributed through the cartels to different ports of entry and then handed over to the NGOs that were helping them aiding the cartels along the way. But all of that, so we understand all of that. The worst part to me is the fact that the Republicans seeing all this, that you still have Republicans that don't stand up and say, we were going to shut down the border or shut down the government until we shut down the border. It's

Jenny Beth Martin (12:08):

Because I wonder if Senator Langford has actually been down there and seen. That's good question. What you and I have seen, because I think in his heart, I've met him and I think that he's a well-meaning individual who's very, very compassionate. And I think what he thinks he's doing is being compassionate and solving the problem. And what I don't think he understands is that it isn't compassionate, and it's actually going to just keep this going,

Ben Bergquam (12:36):

Ben. It's going to exacerbate it. It's going to make it worse.

Jenny Beth Martin (12:39):

I've seen, I keep having to go back and forth through Phoenix because Phoenix is a swing state, and I've already been to the border over the last several, several months, and I'm sure I'm going to be back very soon. But one of the things that I noticed is every time I go through the Phoenix airport, I see people who are clearly just straight from the border or very soon from it, and they have a phone and they have a cord with the phone, and then they have a clear plastic Ziploc bag with papers, and that's all they're traveling with. And there was this one lady who I saw who was sitting at the airport and she had a little toddler, and the toddler was, there was a mom nursing sitting down on the ground and the toddler was kind of bothering the mom and the baby nursing. No one would do. If we see that, you're like, no, come back over. Leave that mom alone. This lady who was responsible for the toddler was just staring into space, and I don't know if it was her daughter or if it was a child who was assigned to her to take care of, I don't know what was going on, staring in the space. She looked like she was in shock. She had been through the most horrendous experience in her life, and she just couldn't deal with it at all. Right then,

Ben Bergquam (13:55):

So I just want to end with this. Langford, there is a lot of ignorance out there for the people that haven't been there, but they can. You can't claim ignorance anymore because everything that's at the border is now coming to your community everywhere. Oklahoma is as much a border state as any other state is. Go to Oklahoma City, you've got hundreds, thousands of illegals getting dispersed throughout that city. Langford can't claim that although these politicians live in their ivory towers, they don't have to live with the policies, but this is the reality of it. These women that are coming are being raped. The children that are coming are being raped. They're being sold. They're being trafficked. Modern day slavery is happening at a scale we've never seen before in this country, and every one of these policies coming out of Washington, DC and Lankford's policy, if it's passed, will increase that. And that's the reality. It's not compassionate. It is evil. It's not

Jenny Beth Martin (14:42):

Compassionate. It's pure evil, pure evil, evil. It has to stop, and I appreciate everything that you're doing to shine a light on it. And James O'Keefe has been doing a lot of work. We've been down there. Our documentary is Border States of America because every state is a border state, not just one. All of us are border states and we have to keep doing this. We've got to secure elections and win elections so that we can then get to work to pass legislation to solve the

Ben Bergquam (15:06):

Problem. Those are most two important issues of our generation right now. Election security and border security. Absolutely. If we don't have those, we don't have a country.

Jenny Beth Martin (15:14):

Ben, thank you so much for being with me. I really appreciate it and I look forward to doing more with you and maybe even going to the border with you sometime soon. Looking forward to it with you and Scott Press,

Ben Bergquam (15:24):

I love it. Let's do some cleanups.

Jenny Beth Martin (15:26):

Alright. All right. Thank you. God

Ben Bergquam (15:28):

Bless you.

Narrator (15:28):

The Jenny Beth Show is hosted by Jenny Beth Martin, produced by Kevin Mohan and directed by Luke Livingston. The Jenny Beth Show is a production of Tea Party Patriots action. For more information, visit tea party patriots.org.

Jenny Beth Martin (15:48):

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