Surviving Communism, part four: the socialists promise you will own the factories, and a survivor from Nicaragua calls it the biggest lie they tell. Jenny Beth Martin reads the Democratic Socialists of America's program for delivering its promises to six people who grew up under governments that delivered them: public ownership of the largest corporations and essential industries, publicly owned housing, and a new constitution that abolishes the Senate, the Electoral College, the police, prisons, and ICE. The answers are concrete. Ovidiu Frusina, a mechanical engineer from Nicolae Ceausescu's Romania, describes the no-debt, no-mortgage life: seven people in 500 square feet, the state as landlord, the lights cut at nine, and a pension of a few dollars a month. Manuela Callini remembers two hours of electricity a day and the government deciding by license plate which days you could drive. Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev, Soviet physicist and Moscow Helsinki Group dissident, explains why educated people keep believing a central plan can beat a market. Agnes Gibboney, founder of Angel Families of America, tells what communism took from her family in Hungary, then answers her 14-year-old grandson, who thinks New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani has good ideas. Sasha Gong, former China director at Voice of America, shows what a cashless state does to a dissident's bank account. Captain Onofre Gutierrez of Nicaragua asks the question the program never answers: how much of Tesla would be yours, and who runs it the day after? Learn more at teapartypatriots.org and jennybethshow.com.
Surviving Communism, part four. Jenny Beth Martin reads the Democratic Socialists of America's plan for public ownership of the largest corporations, publicly owned housing, and a new constitution to six survivors of communism, and they describe what it took to deliver those promises where they grew up.
Guests
Sasha Gong is the former China director at Voice of America, a former political prisoner in China, and a Harvard PhD.
Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev is a Soviet physicist and Moscow Helsinki Group dissident who was exiled in 1980 and later briefed President Ronald Reagan.
Agnes Gibboney is the founder of Angel Families of America. Her family fled Hungary after the Soviet invasion of 1956.
Ovidiu Frusina is a mechanical engineer who grew up in Nicolae Ceausescu's Romania.
Manuela Callini grew up under Romanian communism and is now a grassroots activist in Arizona.
Captain Onofre Gutierrez was born in Managua, Nicaragua, and lived through the Sandinista takeover.
Key topics
• No debt and no mortgage, Romanian style: nothing to borrow, nothing to own, the state as landlord
• Two hours of electricity a day and driving days assigned by license plate
• Soviet communal apartments: one kitchen and one toilet shared by three families
• Why semi-educated intellectuals believe a central plan can replace a market
• Public ownership of the largest corporations: who gets taken first, and who runs it after
• A Romanian family stripped of centuries of land overnight, and one pair of rubber boots for nine children
• The COVID lockdowns as a preview of rule by experts
• China's cashless state: a frozen bank account for reposting a dissident
• The confiscated orchard, the confiscated steel plant, and the Swiss buying Romanian tractors for scrap
• A new constitution: Stalin already wrote one
• If the socialists win here, is America somehow different?
• The biggest lie: you will own the factories
• Nothing is free: a Hungarian refugee answers her grandson on Mamdani, and advice for parents
Timestamps
00:00 — Cold open: the Democratic Socialists of America program, in their own words
00:38 — Jenny Beth Martin introduces the six survivors
01:29 — No debt, no mortgage: seven people in 500 square feet in Ceausescu's Romania
07:05 — Two hours of electricity a day and driving by license plate
08:42 — Soviet communal apartments: three families, one kitchen
09:52 — Why the semi-educated believe in a plan that cannot work
15:17 — Public ownership of the largest corporations: who they come for first
16:07 — Overnight they took everything: Callini's mother and the rubber boots
18:25 — The COVID lockdowns were the preview
20:21 — One pig for the party: Gibboney's family by Lake Balaton
21:21 — China's cashless control: a bank account frozen for a repost
23:26 — Life, liberty, and property, and rule by expertise
26:22 — Who runs Amazon the day after? The orchard, the steel plant, and the Swiss tractors
32:54 — A new constitution: Stalin already wrote one
34:41 — If the socialists win, is America somehow different?
38:52 — Nobody is lining up to move to Cuba
42:50 — The biggest lie: you will own the factories
47:20 — Her 14-year-old grandson said Mamdani has good ideas
49:33 — Parents, log in to your kids' social media
51:50 — Part five preview and close
Links mentioned
jennybethshow.com
teapartypatriots.org
iwillsaveamerica.com