A federal grand jury has indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center on fraud and money laundering charges, and the SPLC's decades-long hate-group labeling racket is finally unraveling. Jenny Beth Martin sits down with Tina Descovich, CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty, for an unfiltered conversation about the manufactured hate machine that has targeted parents, pastors, conservatives, and grassroots Americans for years. Tina submitted 125 pages of documented harms to the House Judiciary Committee ahead of its first hearing on the SPLC. In this episode, she walks through the real-world consequences of being smeared as a hate group: a Maryland mom losing custody arguments because the SPLC labeled her, a New Jersey mom whose family was swatted, a Massachusetts chapter chair facing trained police hostility after the entire state's 20,000-officer municipal force sat through SPLC-sourced training, and the Family Research Council shooter who showed up with a bag of Chick-fil-A sandwiches and a plan to silence Christians. Jenny Beth and Tina expose how the SPLC's nearly billion-dollar endowment has been weaponized against small organizations with no recourse, how federal agencies and state governments still rely on its discredited hate map, and what grassroots Americans can do to demand accountability. Plus, Tina previews the Moms for Liberty D-Day fundraiser on the USS Midway in San Diego on June 6th, featuring Glenn Beck, Sage Steele, David Barton, and Jenny Beth Martin. Visit jennybethshow.com and teapartypatriots.org for more.
Guest: Tina Descovich is the CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty, a national parental rights organization defending the rights of parents to direct their children's education. A former elected school board member in Brevard County, Florida, Tina has built Moms for Liberty into one of the most influential grassroots parental rights movements in the country.
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Timestamped Topic Breakdown:
00:14 — Cold open and welcome
00:17 — Federal grand jury indicts SPLC on fraud and money laundering charges
00:47 — Why Tina held a press conference before the congressional hearing
01:10 — Moms for Liberty placed on the SPLC hate map in June 2023
02:37 — Jenny Beth on the SPLC's escalation from labeling to infiltration
03:30 — The Judiciary Committee calls it "manufactured hate"
04:08 — 125 pages of documented harms: the Maryland custody case
05:09 — Defining "swatting" and "doxxing" for the audience
06:35 — The New Jersey mom whose family was swatted
06:45 — Massachusetts: 20,000 police officers trained using SPLC materials
07:46 — Jenny Beth on protesters at the only-citizens-voting bus tour
08:56 — Jenny Beth's photo on the SPLC homepage during the Charlie Kirk assassination
10:26 — The SPLC as the real hate machine
11:47 — Federal and state government reliance on the SPLC
12:46 — Iowa: 7 of 10 listed hate groups are Moms for Liberty chapters
13:28 — How the SPLC's billion-dollar endowment crushes legal challenges
15:36 — Gays Against Groomers and other small groups with no recourse
16:42 — The first House Judiciary hearing and three key witnesses
18:24 — The second hearing on July 9th or 10th with SPLC leadership testifying
19:14 — The Chick-fil-A Foundation's 2017 donation to the SPLC
20:29 — The cost of grassroots resistance: cyberattacks and Philadelphia
21:59 — Defining real hate vs. exercising the First Amendment
23:29 — Standing up for donors who stand with us
24:03 — Donate to Moms for Liberty
24:38 — The Moms for Liberty D-Day celebration on the USS Midway, June 6th
25:23 — Closing thanks and steel spine
25:35 — Subscribe and where to find the show
25:53 — Narrator outro
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