The Jenny Beth Show

Lindsey Clancy Trial: When Justifying Abortion Becomes Justifying Her | Fr. Frank Pavone

Episode Summary

The Lindsey Clancy trial has a lot of people asking why so many women are making excuses for a mother who took the lives of her three children. Father Frank Pavone, founder of Priests for Life and its election arm Pro-Life Vote, tells Jenny Beth Martin the answer has been building for fifty years: a country that keeps justifying the taking of life in the womb will find itself justifying it outside the womb too. He runs the largest post-abortion healing ministry in the world, and he says the psychology is familiar: instead of facing guilt and shame, people justify what others do and find someone else to blame. From there the conversation widens. Jenny Beth Martin, a mother of twins, explains why postpartum reality is real and why it can never become an excuse. Father Pavone connects the refusal to name late-term abortion to the refusal to name a riot, an invasion or terrorism, and reads the Declaration of Independence at 250 as a litany of named evils. The two of them stand with Pink, a pro-choice artist who called out antisemitism during the Ed Sheeran tour and was left standing alone, and Father Pavone gives two reasons Christians must stand with Israel. Then the election: why he expects a historic midterm victory, why he ignores the polls, and the new Pro-Life Vote ad running Mother Teresa's 1994 National Prayer Breakfast speech in about a dozen swing districts with large Catholic populations. Learn more at teapartypatriots.org and jennybethshow.com.

Episode Notes

Guest: Father Frank Pavone is the founder of Priests for Life and of Pro-Life Vote, its election resource arm, which hosts monthly Zoom calls for citizens who want to motivate voters in their communities. He knew Mother Teresa personally in the last three years of her life and has distributed her 1994 National Prayer Breakfast speech at her request for thirty years. He is a returning guest on The Jenny Beth Show.

 

Key topics:

 

• Why the 2026 midterms are part two of the 2024 vote, and why midterm turnout is the problem to beat

• Massachusetts removes abortion limits in the seventh, eighth and ninth months; Virginia, Idaho and Nevada put abortion amendments on the ballot

• The Lindsey Clancy trial and why so many are making excuses for a mother who took the lives of her three children

• Mother Teresa's 1994 National Prayer Breakfast question, asked with Bill Clinton in the room

• The psychology of justifying abortion, from the ministry that runs post-abortion healing

• Jenny Beth Martin on twins, postpartum reality, and what can never be normalized

• Why the same movement that will not name late-term abortion will not name a riot, an invasion or terrorism

• The Declaration of Independence at 250: a litany of named evils, preached first from the pulpits

• Ed Sheeran, Macklemore and Pink: standing with a pro-choice artist who called out antisemitism

• Two reasons Christians must stand with Israel

• Why Father Pavone expects a historic midterm victory and ignores the polls

• Pro-Life Vote's Mother Teresa ads in about a dozen swing districts with large Catholic populations

• Face to face beats a million dollar ad buy: door-knocking and phone calls in a handful of decisive races

• How to connect: prolifevote.com, the monthly Zoom call, and reading the Declaration of Independence today

 

Timestamps:

 

00:00 — Cold open: Father Frank Pavone on life, culture and the 2026 vote

00:44 — Pro-Life Vote: the midterms are part two of 2024

02:38 — Confidence and optimism against the midterm trend

03:25 — Massachusetts, Virginia, Idaho and Nevada: the 20 side of an 80-20 issue

04:57 — The Lindsey Clancy trial and the loss of respect for life

06:54 — Mother Teresa's 1994 question, and the psychology of justifying

09:28 — Judging, compassion and the women making excuses online

14:22 — Twins, postpartum, and what can never be normalized

16:56 — Soft on evil: borders, riots, terrorism and the courage to name it

21:02 — The Declaration of Independence at 250: a litany of named evils

23:04 — Ed Sheeran, Macklemore and Pink

29:22 — Two reasons Christians must stand with Israel

34:10 — Why Father Pavone expects a historic midterm victory

38:18 — Throw the polling in the garbage

39:11 — 21 swing seats and a few thousand votes

39:56 — Mother Teresa in Calcutta, and the swing-district ads

41:19 — Face to face beats a million dollar ad buy

42:53 — How to connect: prolifevote.com

44:26 — Closing

 

Links mentioned:

 

prolifevote.com

jennybethshow.com

teapartypatriots.org