In the first live episode of The Jenny Beth Show, Jenny Beth Martin is joined by Rachel Bovard of the Conservative Partnership Institute, Cleta Mitchell of the Election Integrity Network, and former Congressman Bob McEwen to expose the shocking details behind the FBI’s “Arctic Frost” investigation. This sweeping probe, authorized under the Biden Department of Justice, allegedly targeted Trump electors, conservative organizations, and even sitting members of Congress. The panel discusses the unprecedented abuse of federal power, calls for the impeachment of Judge James Boasberg, and outlines steps Americans can take to demand accountability and protect constitutional freedoms.
In this powerful first live episode of The Jenny Beth Show, host Jenny Beth Martin exposes one of the most explosive political scandals in recent memory — the FBI’s Arctic Frost probe. Joined by Rachel Bovard (Conservative Partnership Institute), Cleta Mitchell (Election Integrity Network), and former Congressman Bob McEwen, this episode dives deep into the weaponization of government power under the Biden Department of Justice and the shocking abuse of authority against conservatives, Trump electors, and even sitting members of Congress.
The panel unpacks how Arctic Frost began, who authorized it, and why it represents one of the most dangerous threats to constitutional freedom in modern American history. From whistleblower revelations and Senate investigations to Tea Party Patriots Action’s new campaign to impeach Judge James Boasberg, this episode sounds the alarm — and calls patriots to action.
Topics Discussed:
Key Quotes:
“Arctic Frost was the vehicle by which FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors could improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus.” – Sen. Chuck Grassley
“This violated not just the law — it violated the system of laws.” – Rachel Bovard
“It’s essential for America to survive that the people who did these things must be held accountable.” – Bob McEwen
“If you don’t punish these people, they’ll come back and do it again — and it will be worse.” – Cleta Mitchell
Call to Action:
Visit ImpeachBoasberg.com to sign the petition demanding accountability for those who abused their power.
For more information and ways to get involved, visit TeaPartyPatriots.org.
Guests:
Rachel Bovard – Vice President, Conservative Partnership Institute | @rachelbovard
Cleta Mitchell – Chairman, Election Integrity Network | @CletaMitchell
Bob McEwen – Former Congressman (OH), Executive Director, Council for National Policy
Host:
Jenny Beth Martin, Co-Founder, Tea Party Patriots Action | @jennybethm
The Jenny Beth Show is a production of Tea Party Patriots Action. New live episodes stream weekdays at 1 PM ET.
Narrator (00:14):
Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show.
Jenny Beth Martin (00:18):
Good afternoon. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show. I'm Jenny Beth Martin, and today is Monday, November 3rd, 2025. We're going to be talking about one of the most important news stories that's happening right now today, and honestly that's happening around this entire year. And because it is such an important story, we've got three experts who are our guest panelists. Today we're going to be talking about a story of government overreach of the absolute worst kind. You've heard it as the Arctic Frost probe, and we're going to be delving into exactly what this is and how it is such an overreach of government, of government power. We're also going to talk about a new call to action that Tea Party Patriots action has launched today to help begin to fight back against this overreach and hold people accountable. Our guests today are Cleta Mitchell, Rachel Boulevard, and Bob McEwen, and I'll introduce each of them to you in just a minute. But before we do that and before we start talking about Arctic Frost, let me let you hear a clip from Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley from a Senate press conference last week as he was explaining what this probe was all about,
Sen. Chuck Grassley (01:33):
Arctic Frost was the vehicle by which FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors could improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus. Contrary to what Smith has said publicly, this was clearly a fishing expedition. If this had happened to Democrats, they'd be as rightly outraged as we are outraged.
Jenny Beth Martin (02:06):
So we're going to be talking about Arctic Frost, how it relates to our constitutional, our core values of constitutionally limited government, personal freedom, economic freedom, and a debt-free future, and what you as an activist can do about it. Now let me introduce our guest. First, we'll have Rachel Bovard, who is a vice president with the Conservative Partnership Institute, then Cleta Mitchell, who is the chairman of the Election Integrity Network, and then Bob McEwen, who is a former congressman from Ohio and who is also the Executive Director of Council for National Policy. Rachel, let me first start with you. Would you please elaborate and explain exactly what we know about Arctic Cross right now, what it is and why it's such an egregious overreach of power?
Rachel Bovard (02:57):
I can't hear you at all.
Jenny Beth Martin (03:00):
Okay, so Rachel cannot hear me. And Landon, hopefully you're going to fix that so that she can hear us. Rachel, do you hear me yet? She still does not hear me. So Landon, what is going on with my microphone? And I apologize to our audience. We're doing this live, it's the first time we've gone live like this, so just bear with us as we work through a few of these technical glitches so that we can continue to do it live each day. Rachel, any better yet? Okay, so my producer is telling me to give just a second while he does that and he is trying to figure out what else it is that is going on with my stream to Rachel Cleta, are you able to hear me right now?
Cleta Mitchell (03:52):
I am. Okay,
Jenny Beth Martin (03:54):
Cleta, let's go to you and then we'll figure out what's going on with Rachel. Can you please go ahead and begin to explain exactly what is Arctic Frost and why it's such an overreach of power?
Cleta Mitchell (04:05):
Well, Arctic Frost was started. Lemme just say what we know so far about the origins. It was a memo in April of 2022 that FBI director Christopher Ray, wrote to Merrick Garland, the Biden Administration Attorney General, and it went to first before it went to Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, it went to Lisa Monaco, who was the Assistant Attorney General, the number two person. And it recommended the opening of an investigation, an FBI investigation by the Washington Field Office of the FBI. And the stated purpose of it, there is a requirement if it is what is known as a sensitive investigative matter, a sim, there are certain procedures that are required to be followed under the FBI's protocols that are issued, and they have the force and effect of law. They're approved by the Attorney General and they are supposed to be followed whenever there is any investigation opened.
(05:15):
But particularly if there is a SIM that is opened, it has additional protocols that are supposed to be followed. I'll be happy to talk about those later. But within two weeks between the time that Christopher Ray wrote the memo and on the date that Merrick Garland signed off on the memo saying, I approve this recommendation, that was April 5th, 2022, and the Washington Field office of the FBI on April 12th, 2022 opened the investigation. It was premised upon, they're required to have what's called a predication. They're supposed to have a crime that they're investigating. The predication identified in the memo, the Christopher Ray memo was the alternate electors, the Trump electors who had met in December of 2020. So now remember that was in December of 2020. This memo is written a year and a half later, April of 2022, saying that those electors in five states, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Michigan, and Wisconsin, had violated federal statutes.
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And when you look at the statutes that they say that were violated, they're pretty spurious. These are not any statutes that have anything to do with the electoral college electoral votes, electoral college proceedings, none of that. But that was what they said was the criminal offense. And it didn't go into any specifics. It just broad terms referenced a few statutes. And then it said that the venue for the investigation should be Washington dc, the Washington Field office because even though these actions took place in the states that the electors sent things to the National Archives and therefore the impact was felt in Washington DC and venue was appropriate in Washington dc. That was the genesis, the gman of the investigation. And what came from that, as we now know, was the most sprawling, gargantuan, intrusive use and abuse of federal government power by the Biden regime to investigate and to violate the constitutional and civil rights of President Trump, president Trump's electors, president Trump's attorneys, his staff, the RNC Conservative organizations, employees of the Trump campaign, employees and consultants to the RNC and on and on conservative organizations such as the Conservative Partnership where Rachel and I are both involved in work.
(08:06):
So this was a sprawling, massive investigation and we can talk in more detail, but this is literally the tip of the iceberg. We're just getting started with finding out the truth of what they were doing and what they did.
Jenny Beth Martin (08:22):
Cleta, what we saw from this is that they were subpoenaing bank records. They were looking at metadata for members of Congress who are looking at on their phones or text messages or computers. They were investigating and looking at the communications that elected members of Congress were having with their constituents and with other people who they are charged and responsible for representing. It seems like a complete and total violation of the division of power within the Constitution.
Cleta Mitchell (09:00):
Oh my gosh, there are so many. When I look at these documents and I've read the documents that came from the FBI to the House Judiciary Committee and then the documents that came through Senator Grassley's office, which came from a whistleblower. So they're not redacted. The FBI needs to reissue these documents and to remove all of the blackouts, all the things that they've shielded from public disclosure. But when you read all of this, I kept thinking, well, here's a whole tentacle that we need to explore and write about and investigate. Oh, here's another tentacle. So one tentacle is what they did to sitting members of the United States Senate. That's a whole, the separation of powers, the speech and debate clause, so many things that were implicated, abuses of constitutional rights, abuses of the law, violations of the law. One that I've chosen to focus on mainly because these people are still under criminal indictment as we are sitting here today.
(10:05):
And that is the Trump electors, his lawyers and random people that these partisan Democrats in the five states, the Democrat ags in Arizona and Wisconsin, Michigan and Nevada, and the now infamous disgraced Democrat prosecutor in Fulton County, Georgia, Fannie Willis. And they basically took the information from the FBI's investigation, Arctic Frost investigation. And I believe that as we get more into the discovery of materials and information, we'll find that it was that these people were indicted under state law, state law, but only at the instigation in the behest and acting as proxies for the federal government and the Biden administration. And so I believe President Trump should pardon every one of those people who were indicted as a result of this sprawling and unconstitutional investigation that resulted in these state charges when the FBI and the opening memo said that these were federal violations.
Jenny Beth Martin (11:15):
Okay, and I'm going to come back to that in the piece that you wrote in the Federalist, but before we discuss that, I think that Rachel is back with us. So Rachel, can you hear and are you with us right now?
Rachel Bovard (11:30):
I'm able to hear you. I can hear you
Jenny Beth Martin (11:31):
Alright. Okay. And Bob and Cleta are going to be with us for the full hour today, but Rachel's not able to, so I want to make sure we get Rachel's input. Rachel Cleta was explaining what Arctic Frost is, but perhaps you could also explain what it is and then your group, the Conservative Partnership Institute was specifically targeted. So maybe talk a little bit about that and then we'll talk about Ed, but hold off before we discuss Ed.
Rachel Bovard (12:01):
Sure. Well, I'm sure Cleta already laid this out beautifully, but for those who haven't been following Arctic Frost, it is the most unprecedented and scaled attempt to meticulously and systematically take down the political right in this country by the efforts of Joe Biden through his Department of Justice and FBIA complete weaponization of government at a scale that I don't think anyone has ever seen. People keep making Watergate comparisons put Watergate is child's play compared to the scope and vastness and breadth of this investigation. It ranged from sitting United States senators to organizations in the conservative movement to grassroots activists. It really is staggering how large this was. And it was Jack Smith's attempt to harass bankrupt, smear and potentially jail. Anyone that was involved materially supporting the MAGA movement or just simply supporting Donald Trump. This was an attempt to make sure the right was suffocated under the weight of a politicized government. It's everything conservatives have been warning about for decades came to fruition in this investigation. So as you mentioned, CPI was rounded up as part of this through subpoenas that we were aware of, subpoenas we didn't know about and other areas of investigation I'm happy to talk about.
Jenny Beth Martin (13:17):
And then specifically one of the things that we saw from the documents that were just released in the last week or so were email communications between FBI agents about your colleague and our friend Ed Corrigan and these, I think we're going to be able to pull a screenshot of that up. What did you think when you saw it about your friend and your colleague?
Rachel Bovard (13:46):
It was shocking on two levels. One, it's shocking that anytime you see anything about people that you work with and respect, and Ed Corrigan has been a mentor to me for over 10 years. Anytime you see people saying things like this about people is shocking, especially when they are false. But the other thing is that it was so unbelievable that someone to think this was actually a real thing. You would have to turn off the critical thinking part of your brain, right? You would have to think A friend of mine called it Weaponized Blue Anon, right? It is so conspiracy laden, it reads like a sub Reddit hallucination, right? They were saying things like Ed Corrigan is pro Putin and Antibi and has bad plans for the FBI and IS training people for Civil War. For people who don't know what the Conservative Partnership Institute does, we are training and networking hub for the conservative movement.
(14:41):
50% of my time at Corrigan and I are teaching Senate staff. What cloture is to say or make allegations like this are just but more ludicrous and more really troubling is that the government couldn't see that these were so outrageous and so ridiculous that they used them as justification to further examine CPI in their wide and huge sweep because again, finding crimes was the point, but not really. The point was harassment. The point was bankruptcy. The point was smearing reputations and making the friction point and the cost for working in the conservative movement so high that no one would ever want to do it again. That was the point.
Jenny Beth Martin (15:26):
It was a point, and thankfully against all odds, president Trump was reelected and we are able to get to the truth of a lot of what we're seeing right now. Rachel, what do you think are things that we should be doing to help hold these people accountable? So this does not happen again.
Rachel Bovard (15:46):
Accountability is going to be vital and I think it has to match the scale of what we've just seen. And so this can't be a traditional Republican exercise where they release some documents, they have an outrage press conference, they write some letters, maybe they have a hearing and then everybody just moves on. That is not going to work here. The name and shame game is not going to work. There has to be accountability. Again, that matches the scale of what we just saw, which means everybody involved in this quote investigation from Jack Smith to Judge Boberg to the line attorneys and agents in the FBI. There needs to be terminations, there needs to be impeachments, disbarments. All of the above need to be under consideration because this didn't just violate the law. This violated the system of laws. And you cannot have this happen in the United States of America. And the only way that you deter this going forward is you show very public, very serious and very consequential accountability. So this has to start now, not just in Congress, but at the Department of Justice as well.
Jenny Beth Martin (16:46):
Okay, and let's go to Congressman Bob Ewen, former Congressman Ewen. Bob, when you saw that so many members of Congress were actually personally targeted, they were subpoenaed, their phone records were subpoenaed, what did you think? Can you imagine if this had happened while you were an elected member? It is just shocking.
Bob McEwen (17:09):
Well, Jenny Beth, thank you for having both of these folks on, but lemme just piggyback on what Rachel just said, and that is this wasn't just a rogue activity by an irresponsible player. This was a deliberate intentional intent by the government of the United States, from the commander in chief, from the president, the executive office article to the Constitution, including the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a coordinated effort to take down political opposition across the board at state, federal, and local government. And the idea that they would go into the Congress and do such a thing is of course startling in and of itself. But the whole idea and the person they put in charge was a person who has great political animus. He went after a very popular governor of Virginia, a man who was considered an excellent governor and potential president of the United States.
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He attacked him for doing absolutely nothing. They said that because he supported this business in his state, that somehow or another that was bribery even though he didn't get any money. And in the course of doing it, he smeared his name, destroyed his political impact, bankrupt as Rachel just pointed out, that the purpose of this is you cannot go to these meetings without taking a lawyer. And they ask inane questions over hours and hours knowing that it's costing you hundreds and thousands of dollars every hour. And so they bankrupted him and eventually he and his wife were divorced. And yet by the time it got to the Supreme Court, this case by this same prosecutor, the Supreme Court dropped, kicked it into the Potomac, unanimously, unanimously, and anybody else would've been embarrassed and ruined. But that's the person that Merrick and Biden chose to run this thing and to go in and to attack these God-fearing, freedom loving citizens who were electors.
(19:04):
That's an act of appreciation for someone who's labored long in the community. They're not of power or finance, they just put their name on there as an honor to go down in the history books as an elector and to try to put these people in jail and bankrupt them. This whole thing is beyond, it's interesting, is what they accuse other people of doing that there will be no other fair elections that they want to shut down the government. This is what they do and what they've done and what Rachel said and what CLE had mentioned, this is not retribution for us to try to put a stop to this. These people need to be put in jail unless if people can use the police power of the state, use the Justice Department and the courts to get people like Judge Bozeman and liars on the courts in order to do things that are totally illegal and pay no price for it, then you can rest assured the second that Donald Trump leaves office, they're going to do it again to the next and we will lose our freedom. It's essential for America to survive that the people that did these things must pay the penalty. They must be held accountable. And that's called justice. It's not called retribution, it's called justice. And thank you for bringing it up.
Jenny Beth Martin (20:22):
Thank you, Bob. Now Cleta, let's go back to you in the op-ed that you published in The Federalist just today, really it's more than an op-ed, it's because the piece is very long and very well, very well researched. So my question to you, Cleta, is why is this so important now for President Trump to pardon the people, the electors that Bob was just talking about?
Cleta Mitchell (20:51):
It's really important because this entire Arctic Frost investigation, and remember this isn't the only investigation that the Biden regime was carrying out against President Trump and against his supporters. I mean, I could give you half a dozen off the top of my head of other, has anyone forgotten Paul Manafort, who is President Trump's campaign manager in 2016, that they indicted and put in solitary confinement. I mean, it started, this has been going on for a decade, A decade that these people have been trying to imprison President Trump and his supporters. And the reason that this is so important to pay attention today to the need to pardon the electors is because every one of these people who were indicted by these partisan Democrat ags and the partisan Fannie Willis in Fulton County, these people are all still under indictment other than the Michigan electors, in which the judge about six weeks ago dismissed the charges.
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She's a Democrat judge, and she said there was no crime here. These people were exercising their constitutional duty as electors. This is a position, it's not a state position, it is a federal position established in the United States Constitution for purposes of electing the president. And the judge dismissed those charges and said they were exercising their constitutional responsibilities, their first Amendment rights and their civic duties. But these people still have those charges on their records. The President needs to come in as soon as possible. Pardon all of them, because I believe that we will find, I believe that we already know that these state proceedings are not state proceedings at all. They're proxy proceedings concocted by the Biden administration, the Biden White House, the Biden DOJ, and the Biden Stassi FBI. And the president can show, can step up today and show that he is not going to tolerate this as one thing he can do. And then we have to begin the process of investigating and finding and holding accountable every single person in the Biden regime who participated in this incredible violation of America's constitution
Jenny Beth Martin (23:17):
And cleta. When it comes to this, one of the things that you've said is that this is, it's from, it's not really state charges. It's stemming from federal charges. And really it seems to me that a lot of these state attorney generals and Fannie Willis, who's a district attorney, are trying to enforce federal election law, even though they're not really the ones charged with federal election law. Wouldn't that be more of the Department of Justice anyway?
Cleta Mitchell (23:50):
Well, the interesting thing about it, Jenny Beth, is that none of these people were indicted based on the meetings and the sending of the certificates, the alternate, the contingent elector certificates to the archives. That isn't what the charges are because there are no state charges. There are no state laws to cover this. This is all spelled out in the US Constitution and in the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which was in effect in 2000 in the year 2020. So they came up with these, they concocted charges like signing a false paper like forgery. I mean, they had to come up with something. There are no state laws. And in fact, the Attorney General of Nevada said that in twice in 2023 that he didn't have any statutory authority under state law to charge the Nevada electors. And then he turned around in December of 23 and charged all six of Nevada's Trump electors.
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You cannot tell me that that was not sponsored by and agitated for by the Biden DOJ. And it's time. We know that Fannie Willis and her Paramore, Nathan Wade went to the White House and met with people at the White House before she brought the charges against President Trump and the electors and lawyers and Trump supporters in Georgia in August of 2023. So I think one of the things that we're going to find happened was that they realized that they needed to focus on trying to get President Trump indicted and before a grand jury and before a jury, before 2024. And that's why they decided to basically delegate and try to get the state ags in those states, the Democrat partisan state prosecutors to file state charges because they didn't, I think they knew they were on the clock and they needed to focus on President Trump, which is what they tried to do.
Jenny Beth Martin (25:55):
And they could cast a really big net hoping that at one point they'd be able to pull President Trump up in it before Rachel has to hop off. Rachel has gone, I was going to point out that Mark Meadows is was President Trump's chief of staff. He also is a fellow at Conservative Partnership Institute and he's been caught up in these indictments. You've got electors who are caught up in it, attorney John Eastman is caught up in it. And then Mike Roman, who was a guy who worked on President Trump's campaign, he's been caught in I think three or four different states. It's absolutely horrible. One of the ladies who's an elector in Georgia was previously a school teacher. She has moved to another state, has had health issues, and because of the indictments, she can't even get a job right now and she needs a job to help pay for the enormous legal bills that have come up because of this.
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It is absolutely horrible and every bit of it is unjust. So when I see the senators and the congressmen who are rightly and have every legitimate reason to be angry about what happened to them, I just think yes, and you put yourself out there and you're going to be a target. This shouldn't happen. But you're braced for being a target when you're a public official, whether you're elected or not. But these electors, like Kathy Latham, she had no idea what was about to happen to her life and it's been completely turned upside down and it's so wrong. I'm glad that you're standing up for her and for all of the electorates.
Cleta Mitchell (27:44):
Well, it's really awful. And look, I mean, you're right. I mean they indicted Mark Meadows, the chief president, Trump's chief of staff, they indicted lawyers. I tell you the thing that's just most shocking to me. And they had left-wing groups that filed bar complaints against every lawyer in America who had done any work at all for the Trump campaign. In 2020. They filed bar complaints, but ultimately there were 54 people who were indicted in various proceedings based on these concocted charges, these fake charges of having violated the law. And those people need to get redressed. They need to be freed from this criminal sort of dam Damocles hanging over their heads and then we can start piecing together, what do we do now? But I just decided that I was going to tithe some of my time every week to try to help get them freed because it's so unjust.
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And as a travesty what happened, I do want to tell everybody this one thing that I think is really important, and that is the reason the electors met in December of 2020. The Trump electors and signed those alternative contingent elector certificates was based on a federal court opinion. In 1960 following the 1960 presidential campaign, Hawaii had originally been declared for Richard Nixon, the Kennedy campaign, the JFK campaign sued and said, we don't think he won. We think we won and presented evidence. And in fact, ultimately the court found that indeed, that Hawaii should have been certified for JFK. Now what had happened is that the JFK attorneys told they had the Kennedy electors meet on the appropriate day sign contingent elector certificates on the basis that if they won their election contest, then they would have to have submitted these certificates by the deadline under the electoral count Act.
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And that way then if they did win their lawsuit, then the Kennedy electors would be in Washington and could be counted by the Congress. And based on that precedent of law, that is why the Trump electors met in the state capitols and sent those certificates to Washington. And the response of the Biden regime was to not only indict the electors, but to indict the lawyers for writing those memos and looking at the history of presidential elector contests. And they have literally had criminal charges filed against them and disbarment proceedings because they wrote legal memos outlining the legal and historical precedent. And that is an outrage. It violates every law, every principle of American jurisprudence. So that's what I mean when I say there's so many tentacles of this, that we could spend an hour on each one, we could spend an hour about the Congress, we could spend an hour about what they did to the RNC and all the Republican committees and every Trump campaign committee and all of these conservative organizations and conservative leaders spent an hour on the electors. There's so much, and I just want to reiterate, and this wasn't the only investigation they were pursuing. Don't forget the Mar-a-Lago rate. I mean there, don't forget Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro going to jail. It is so massive people, it's hard to get our heads around it. And note to date, I do not believe the New York Times or the Washington Post have yet to cover a single bit of this.
Jenny Beth Martin (31:53):
No. And if they did, they would just make up crazy accusations about all of us and not cover it in any sort of unbiased way whatsoever. And I want you and Bob both to talk about Watergate, but before we go to how it compares to Watergate, it reminds me so much of what you and I both had to deal with as we were working with the IRS targeting of groups with Tea Party and Patriots in their name like Tea Party Patriots. It's similar, but I think so much worth because of the criminal subpoenas and the criminal aspect of it.
Cleta Mitchell (32:33):
Well, it's absolutely true, and I actually wrote something about that on XA few months ago that the left is really good at this. And Obama practiced this back during the IRS targeting of conservatives and tea party groups. There was never anybody held accountable for that. Although I will have to tell you, Jenny Beth, I don't know, you may not have known this, but just a few weeks ago, Holly P, who was the lowest learners, number two, she was actually fired by the Trump administration just a few weeks ago. And this is the first time there's been anyone fired for their role in the Tea Party targeting scandal. But so they're very used to it. And I'll tell you something else, Steve Bannon sent me something the other night. Mark Elias, who's the Democrats litigator in chief, who was responsible for covering up the payments for the steel dossier against President Trump.
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That was used as the basis for persecuting and prosecuting President Trump during his first term and the Russia collusion hoax. But Mark Elias was on M-S-N-B-C Friday evening wailing and wailing about President Trump is an authoritarian and these Republicans, he's trying to normalize behaviors that are so abnormal and is going to try to behave as a king, all the no kings and everything. Honestly, these people have yet to pay a single bit of attention to any of this. Whenever they start cater walling about something that they're accusing President Trump or conservatives or MAGA or Republicans of doing, you can bet that's what they're doing or that's what they've done because they're the only ones who even think to do anything like this.
Jenny Beth Martin (34:26):
So it really, it's just shocking. And then there's such the party of projection. They'll sit there and do all of these things. And then when there's any investigation into any of them, which may be legitimate, very focused, very narrowly targeted about a specific law, they accuse President Trump and the right of doing what they actually did. Bob, you're back with us. You mentioned that we need to have justice for these actions. What do you envision that justice looks like?
Bob McEwen (35:05):
Well, I'm hopeful Cleta understands that we're going to have to have an Attorney General and we're going to have to have an FBI that's willing to apply the law. And this country, literally the 2020 election, it was George Washington escaping from Brooklyn, New York when they had to get across the river and he was protected by the clouds. Had he lost that America wouldn't have existed had we lost this election in 2020, these people that they were prosecuting, they were going to put 'em in jail, destroy. As Cleta said, they're going after anyone who consulted, anyone who worked hard, anyone who went door to door, anybody who made phone calls. They're in the process of destroying the political process in America and the idea that they can survive like this, we must have the prosecutions, let's take for example in the Congress, they decided they wanted to investigate as the psyop that they had on January 6th where they had hundreds of FBI agents and they were directing people in Let's go this way, and all these God-fearing freedom loving Americans that were there.
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And so then they have gone after an effort to put them in jail and to bankrupt them and do those things, but in order to consider it, that's in the Congress when you do things that that's public record. And so they put in the intelligence committee which deals only with secrets. So they did it in the intelligence committee and didn't appoint Republicans only had Democrats and they called people to come and testify and crook the staff and millions of dollars of investigation to try to build a case in order to accomplish the overthrow of our government. And at the end of it, when they lost control of the Senate of the Congress, here's what they did. They took all of those records and they destroyed them. And then Biden gave these sitting members of Congress and their staff members pardons. Now, what is a pardon?
(37:01):
A pardon is when you have been convicted of something and you've gone to prison and you get out and you want to start your life over again and you've paid your penalty, then you petition for a pardon to have your records wiped clean. These people had not even been charged with anything, fauci and all the rest. They hadn't even been charged with anything. But they knew that what they had done was illegal and unconstitutional and un-American. And so before they left town, the president of the United States that coordinated all of these sorts of things, he gave them all pardons, thousands of them gave them pardons. I repeat members of Congress like Adam Schiff from California, something like that. He couldn't get elected from normal states in the country and indeed staff members of Capitol Hill. Now what has to be done, in answer to your question, we need a committed Department of Justice that understands that this country is in their hands. They're in a position of public trust. If they don't do what's called upon to do, that our country is vulnerable from now on in the future. We've never seen anything like this before and pray that we'd never do it again. And the way that we can stop it is if the FBI and the Justice Department do what is proper and hold these people accountable under the law.
Jenny Beth Martin (38:26):
Absolutely. And one of the things that T Pretty Patriot's action is doing, in addition to the things that you both have mentioned to help with bringing accountability, we are calling for the impeachment of Judge Boberg and people can go to impeach bosberg.com and sign our petition. I encourage you to go do that right now. You can call your member of the house, so your congressman and then both senators, but right now impeachment starts on the house side. So call your congressman and tell your congressman you want to see impeachment charges brought forward against Judge Boberg when they come back from the Democrat government shutdown and that you want to hold this judge to account. It's absolutely ludicrous that it isn't just ludicrous. It is completely and totally 100% offensive, and it is a slap in the face to anyone who holds dear the Constitution, what this judge did to the sitting members of the United States Senate and a congressman.
(39:29):
It's unacceptable. It cannot ever happen again. And consequences need to apply now so that in five years from now, in 10 years from now, another judge doesn't even overreach even further. Before we wrap up, I'd like both of you, if you don't mind to tell me what you think about how this is Watergate and how it is different. In the press conference last week with the Senators, we heard Marsha Blackburn and Ted Cruz and also Ron Johnson all say that this is like Watergate or even worse. So Bob, I'll start with you. How is it like it and how is it worse?
Bob McEwen (40:13):
Well, interesting, Jenny Beth, you have two people on here that both of us actually lived through and remembered Watergate very well. I was in office at the time, and I can just tell you that the idea that this CIA agent that supposedly was working for Mr. Nixon, but he didn't know anything about it, went in there and tried to steal some documents, the idea that that would be incomparable to this is absolutely foolish. For the last 40 years, all we've heard is this is worse than Watergate. This is worse than Watergate. Watergate doesn't get to the first step of this ladder. This is infinitely worse than Watergate. This was a deliberate, this wasn't a rogue person. As I said in the beginning, this was a deliberate intentional effort by the Department of Justice under the direction of the President of the United States in order to take down political opposition and rewrite the entire political election process in our country and to shake the people that were electors for the purpose of doing it.
(41:15):
We've never seen anything like this ever before. So this Watergate, and of course Cleta mentioned about the Navarro and the people that worked for the president. His office was right across from the FBI. He was going to the airport. They went out there in front at the airport and put him in handcuffs and put him off in jail for doing what? For not testifying in front of the Congress. Not that he said anything wrong, he just didn't testify. That's the jack booted thuggery that they operate under. Now they'll do that to a Republican that just didn't want to testify. They came and lied, as you mentioned about the judge that allow these investigations to violate people's rights, which we have a special provision for when our nation is at risk. And they did it blanket for political purposes. This is infinitely, infinitely a multiple times worse than anything that Watergate ever was.
Cleta Mitchell (42:10):
Well, I'll tell you my thought about Watergate. I was in law school and I remember coming downstairs in the old law barn at the University of Oklahoma Law School every day, and we'd come down at the end of the day and we'd watch the news, watch Walter Conki, we'd watch, here's how it's like Watergate. It is like Watergate in the sense that it was Democrat prosecutors and Democrat judges and Democrats on the Senate Watergate Committee who went after a Republican president and his attorney general and his chief of staff and his senior advisors and his counsel and put people in jail, his key campaign advisors. That's how it's like Watergate. Other than that, it's not like Watergate because, but these Democrats have a long history of getting away with and being able to go work in hand in glove with Democrats who are in office to try to persecute and prosecute their Republican opponents.
(43:18):
And so I have had a really different, over the last decades I've started to realize that maybe Watergate wasn't exactly as it was described to me by Walter Cronkite and the New York Times, the Washington Post, that maybe there was something more to it. And what we're seeing now is only because there are now alternative sources of information. You podcast Steve Bannon's podcast, many, many conservative media outlets, and that didn't exist back during Watergate. So all the country knew was what they were being told by N-B-C-C-B-S-A-B C3 networks and the New York Times and Washington Post and all the Me too newspapers around the country. That was it. Well, now we have the opportunity to see that those same outlets are not covering this scandal. They're not even paying attention to it after they all ganged up and were a gavel and won prizes over their coverage of Watergate, which was nothing compared to what we're seeing. So look, there is a lot, as I say, there are a lot of tentacles that we need to pay attention to and write about and talk about and tell about that. I just urge people go to Twitter X, I can't get used to saying X. Go to watch podcasts. Listen to people who are willing to talk about the truth because you're not going to get it from C-B-S-A-B-C-N-B-C or the Washington Post or New York Times.
Jenny Beth Martin (44:53):
Okay, now let's do a rapid fire round of questions. The first one is this, and I'm going to ask both of you and you can answer it quickly. What is the biggest misconception you think people have right now about Arctic Frost and Cleta? Let's go to you and then we'll go to Bob.
Cleta Mitchell (45:10):
I don't think they know anything about it. I think that's the biggest problem is that too many people don't know about it. So it's our job to tell them
Jenny Beth Martin (45:19):
And Bob,
Bob McEwen (45:21):
And if they knew about it, they wouldn't believe it, that these are absolute crooks that have used the police power of the state for political purposes, unlike anything we've ever seen.
Jenny Beth Martin (45:32):
And I agree with that. I think they don't know anything about it. And then when they do hear about it, they don't understand how dangerous it is. If it can happen to a member of Congress, if it can happen to electors, it can happen to any average American. It's such an abuse of power. Okay, the next question is, finish this sentence. If we fail to act now regarding Arctic Frost, what will happen in five years? What will happen?
Cleta Mitchell (45:59):
I think they'll do exactly what they did after nobody was punished for the IRS targeting scandal. If you don't punish these people, they come back and they do it again. And every time it gets worse. What they did to President Trump in 2016 and 2017 and then the three impeachments and all the things that they did to him in his first term, and then after he was out of office, then what they did since then to try to destroy him and his entire movement, it just gets worse and worse and worse. So we better figure out how to jerk these things up by the roots so that they can't keep sprouting up again and getting bigger every time. It's like a starfish where you cut one tentacle off and two grow back in its place. We have to do something to stop this.
Jenny Beth Martin (46:45):
And Bob, one
Bob McEwen (46:46):
Of the things they should do is to read Eric Trump's book, and they should see exactly what they did to a sitting president of the United States, that they went in and ransacked the First Lady's Laundry just because they knew that she was a neat nick and they wanted to embarrass her. They took documents that said secret all over, spread 'em all over the floor, took pictures and released it to the press for which they gave each other awards for doing. They shut down 300 of his business accounts in one night in order to bankrupt so that they couldn't meet the bills and couldn't receive the money from the businesses that they own, et cetera, et cetera. You just need to see exactly Now that was what was done. Just to Donald Trump, as has mentioned, this has been countrywide to people, Patriots, elsewhere. She's exactly correct. If this isn't stopped and it's only the grace of God is the 2020 election, had we not been able to win that election, then this country would not have existed
Jenny Beth Martin (47:42):
2024. The grace of God,
Bob McEwen (47:45):
Exactly 2024. Had we not won that election. If we didn't have a Justice Department currently then if they could have continued the direction that they were going, our country, I believe would've all the charges that they made, they paid Oprah a few million dollars to stand up and say, if Trump wins, we'll never have an election again. That's what they planned. They planned never to have an election again. Instead, Trump won. And now we can restore our republic if we do it.
Jenny Beth Martin (48:12):
I think that if we don't do something about this right now and we don't address it and stop it and hold people accountable and make an example out of them for breaking the law, then we're going to see a further abuse of power. It'll be even worse at the federal level. And I think these same kind of abusive weaponization tactics will spread to states as well. And we must stop it. Okay, the final question for in each 30 seconds, what is the one thing you want every viewer today to walk away from? Bob, let's start with you.
Bob McEwen (48:46):
Well, that God's not finished with this country yet. If they could steal election when we were in power, how we won in 2024, I don't know, but I'm glad we did. Now they have to make sure that they vote and everyone that they know votes and then that they hold their elected officials accountable. That's their members of Congress
Jenny Beth Martin (49:04):
And Cleta,
Cleta Mitchell (49:05):
You better vote in 2026 and reelect a Republican House and Senate because if we don't, then the Democrats will come in, they will impeach President Trump again, and they will put a stop to everything we're trying to do, and they'll stop all our ability to hold them accountable. So everybody who believes in this country, everybody who supported President Trump in all these years, 20 16, 20 20, 20 24, if you really care about America and you support President Trump, you better be planning to vote in 2026.
Jenny Beth Martin (49:38):
Thank you both. And my comment would be that the thing that needs to happen right now today, sign the Petition to Impeach Judge Boberg. Call your congressman. Tell them you want to impeach Boberg. Share this video so other people will learn what Arctic Frost is, why it matters, why it is important to them. And then make sure that you do what Bob and Cleta both just said. Make your plan now to vote in 2026 and in 2028 and get involved. Get involved with T Pretty Patriots action. Get involved with some other 5 0 1 C four nonprofit or a Super PAC or an election, a campaign. Be involved. Help us make sure that conservatives hold the House and the Senate so we don't see President Trump impeached again. And to make sure that we actually are bringing accountability to these Freedom Thieves who did this to so many people in the Republican party and the conservative movement. It cannot stand and we, it's up to us to defend liberty and freedom. And I'm going to leave you with this final clip from the press conference. This one is from Senator John Cornyn. Make sure you make plans to join us tomorrow at one o'clock Eastern Time for the next edition of the Jenny Best Show. And now listen to this clip as we sign off. Thanks so much for joining me.
Sen. John Cornyn (50:59):
We would do that to the President of the United States. If they would do this to United States Senators and members of Congress, what would they do to you?
Narrator (51:14):
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