The Jenny Beth Show

Flock Cameras: A Child of Communist Romania Sees the Pattern Coming Back | Manuela Callini

Episode Summary

Flock cameras, sold as a way to catch criminals, look to Manuela Callini like something she has seen before. She was born in communist Romania in 1986 and was not quite four when Nicolae Ceausescu fell, old enough to remember standing in line before dawn with her father for one kind of milk, and being sent home when the shop ran out. The youngest voice in the Surviving Communism series tells Jenny Beth Martin what the regime did to her family: the collectivization that took her mother's family land, livestock, equipment, and even clothes, leaving nine children one pair of rubber boots to share for the walk to school; the state that chose her father's job, his city, and his apartment; hands inspected on white handkerchiefs at daycare; and a Christmas Day trial of under an hour that ended the dictator himself. Then the conversation turns to America, where Callini has lived since 2013 and now works in grassroots activism in Arizona. Flock and Axon cameras sold as safety, free things that make you the property of the state, a younger generation that never shows up to a legislative district meeting: she says it is the pattern she grew up in, and it always arrives dressed as safety, fairness, equality, and compassion. Where to look first: law enforcement and the courts. Guest: Manuela Callini, born in communist Romania, in the United States since 2013, now in grassroots activism with EZAZ in Arizona. Learn more at teapartypatriots.org and jennybethshow.com.

Episode Notes

Guest:

 

Manuela Callini was born in communist Romania in 1986 and was almost four when the Ceausescu regime fell in December 1989. Her mother came from a landowning family whose estate was collectivized; her father studied economics in Bucharest and was assigned his job and his apartment by the state. Callini studied international relations, worked with the Leadership Institute in Romania and Europe, and came to the United States in 2013 to work for the Institute in Washington, D.C. She became a citizen the legal way, lives in Arizona, and is involved in grassroots activism with EZAZ, where she learned the state's Request to Speak system and how bills are written.

 

Key topics:

 

• Ration cards, lines before dawn, and a shop that closes when you reach the front

• Collectivization: her mother's family lost its land, livestock, equipment, and clothes; nine children shared one pair of rubber boots

• The state chose her father's job, his city, and his home; businesses were nationalized overnight with no compensation

• Children under the personality cult: identical uniforms, inspected hands, Ceausescu's portrait in every classroom

• Ceausescu's end: fruit tied to trees for his visits, a Christmas Day trial of under an hour, and the lesson that nobody is safe under communism

• Informers, a summer sweater, and a family that could trust no one

• Flock and Axon cameras: mass surveillance sold as safety, and why no technology should require trusting the officer who holds it

• The "new man," faith as a crime, and Pastor Richard Wurmbrand

• The 250-year-old house the state handed her family, and the owners who came back after 1989

• Illegal immigration, free health care, and the patterns she sees in America

• Why there are no young people at legislative district meetings, and what changed her mind in one day at EZAZ

• The one thing to guard first: law enforcement and the courts

• Her message: do not be deceived, start asking questions, show up

 

Timestamps:

 

00:00 — Cold open: her mother was one of nine children who shared a single pair of rubber boots

00:42 — Who Manuela Callini is: born in communist Romania, not quite four when the regime fell

01:43 — The interview begins: what growing up was like

01:59 — Born in 1986: ration cards, lines before dawn, and a shop that closes when you reach the front

03:45 — School under the personality cult: identical uniforms and state-given names

04:29 — Hands inspected on white handkerchiefs, like merchandise

05:23 — Ceausescu's portrait in every daycare; her wish for America

05:56 — Almost four when it ended: a dictator surrounded by his own relatives

06:55 — Streets painted overnight and fruit tied to the trees for his visits

07:36 — Christmas Day 1989: captured, tried in under an hour

08:48 — Nobody is safe under communism, not even the man at the top

09:15 — What her parents lived through: a mother from a family documented to the 1200s

10:03 — Collectivization: the state took the livestock, the equipment, even the clothes

11:27 — Nine children, one pair of rubber boots, three miles to school in the snow

12:57 — Her father: economics in Bucharest, then the job and the apartment the state chose

14:09 — The government controls your education, your job, and where and with whom you live

14:49 — Businesses, real estate, even children: everything belongs to the state

16:11 — Romania was not the Soviet Union; as Moscow loosened, Bucharest tightened

17:17 — A summer sweater, and why her mother said no

17:45 — Cold, electricity a few hours a day, two hours of television

18:20 — Oranges were a luxury

18:46 — December 1989 on a black-and-white TV: the euphoria on her parents' faces

19:55 — Communism left a mark: taught not to have a voice

20:25 — Informers, rewarded by the regime

21:08 — When no one can be trusted; the standard-issue haircuts

22:05 — Did you ever go hungry?

22:36 — Children going to bed hungry; broken shoes in first grade

23:17 — Ceausescu bragged about saving the economy

23:48 — A palace in Bucharest while the people had no heat

24:49 — The system eats its own; the Soviet bloc comes down; Tiananmen Square

25:52 — It always comes dressed up as good intentions: Flock and Axon cameras

26:36 — What the secret police would have done with this technology

27:27 — No technology should require trusting the officer who holds it

27:49 — Trafficking has not changed; data centers

28:34 — To America in 2013 through the Leadership Institute

29:32 — Margaret Thatcher's first impression of America

31:35 — Her father's visits: clean streets, and why nobody walks

32:33 — Private property is the first thing they take; land as sacred

34:33 — Her grandparents saw it happen; a grandfather who became a pastor

36:21 — The "new man": stripping people of their identity

38:21 — Pastor Richard Wurmbrand, and the lie told to his wife

39:18 — Abortion banned, contraception unavailable, foster homes full

40:53 — Why: external debt and a bigger workforce

42:15 — The socialist pitch sounds wonderful: free housing, free health care

42:56 — You don't own anything, but you are owned by the state

43:47 — The 250-year-old house taken from its owners

44:57 — After 1989: the rightful owners come back

45:35 — Big government arrives gradually, dressed up as your own good

46:01 — Patterns in America: free things that are not free

46:16 — Illegal immigration: she came the legal way

47:51 — Europe's immigration lesson

49:35 — EBT cards, free health care, and what it does to the people who pay

50:30 — The patterns are alarming; the younger generation was never taught

51:15 — Twenties and thirties, oblivious to the socialist agenda

51:44 — No young people at legislative district meetings or Request to Speak

52:38 — Distraction as strategy; walking into the EZAZ office in March

54:10 — The country thrives only if citizens get involved

55:18 — The one thing to guard: how communism entered Romania in 1945

55:58 — Watch law enforcement and the courts first

56:28 — Cameras, gender ideology, and an eroded identity

57:35 — Her message: do not be deceived

58:49 — Wake up: nobody dreams the North Korean dream

59:36 — The close: share the series, vote for liberty, iwillsaveamerica.com

 

Links mentioned:

 

iwillsaveamerica.com

jennybethshow.com

teapartypatriots.org