In this episode of "The Jenny Beth Show," Jenny Beth Martin is joined by Ron Hanks, a candidate for Colorado's third congressional district. Hanks shares his motivation for running, rooted in his extensive military background and commitment to conservative values. He discusses key issues such as border security, American energy independence, and the importance of restoring election integrity. Hanks also addresses the challenges facing Colorado, including federal land grabs and water rights. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the need for a conservative Congress to support a pro-America agenda and ensure the nation's security and prosperity.
In this episode of "The Jenny Beth Show," Jenny Beth Martin is joined by Ron Hanks, a candidate for Colorado's third congressional district. Hanks shares his motivation for running, rooted in his extensive military background and commitment to conservative values. He discusses key issues such as border security, American energy independence, and the importance of restoring election integrity. Hanks also addresses the challenges facing Colorado, including federal land grabs and water rights. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the need for a conservative Congress to support a pro-America agenda and ensure the nation's security and prosperity.
Twitter/X: @RonHanksCD3 | @jennybethm
Website: hanksforcolorado.comg
Ron Hanks (00:00):
It's funny how many foreign nationals I've met that used to live under communism have come to this country, become American citizens and say what's happening to this country. I saw this in Poland when I left Communist Poland.
Narrator (00:16):
Keeping our Republic is on the line and it requires Patriots with great passion, dedication, and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms. Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots. She's an author, a filmmaker, and one of time magazine's most influential people in the world. But the title she is most proud of is Mom to Her Boy, girl Twins. She has been at the forefront fighting to protect America's core principles for more than a decade. Welcome to the Jenny Best Show,
Jenny Beth Martin (00:47):
Jeff today Ron Hanks is joining us. He is running for Colorado's third congressional district seat and I am looking forward to the conversation with him to learn about why he's running for Congress and what he intends to do if he is elected. Ron, thanks so much for joining me today.
Ron Hanks (01:05):
Well, good morning, Jenny Beth, thank you for the invite. I appreciate it very much.
Jenny Beth Martin (01:10):
Why are you running for Congress? It is such a swamp in Washington DC I think that people who step up and run are to be admired and also to be questioned a little bit about their sanity
Ron Hanks (01:22):
Examined heavily. Yes, I believe you're right. The reason I'm running, as you probably know, Lauren Bobert shifted from CD three to CD four, and so as soon as that happened, I started getting phone calls and they said, Hanks, we need to keep this conservative seat. None of the other people in the race are conservative. None of 'em have a record. I was in the State House here so people know I do have a conservative record. And they finally, they asked, would you do this? And it's hard to say no. As you know, Jenny Beth to anybody who's in the fight, and I thought of Donald Trump. He doesn't have to be in this fight, and yet he continues and I feel he needs a conservative Congress that doesn't sandbag him like Paul Ryan or Kevin McCarthy would have. So really the mission to me is to hold this seat conservative, find more conservatives like the Freedom Caucus types. Let's get a speaker that puts the Make America great agenda on the calendar in the legislature.
Jenny Beth Martin (02:33):
So what are your top issues and well, first, what are your core values? What are the values that you think are important that motivate you to run? And then let's talk about issues underneath those values.
Ron Hanks (02:46):
Yeah, I appreciate that. I joined the military right out of high school in 1984, and Ronald Reagan was my first commander in chief, and I retired in November of 2017. So Donald Trump was my last commander in chief, and my values were all built and established really before I joined the service through talking around the dinner table with parents and grandparents. But it's always been a service to the nation. It was a blessing to serve in the Air Force for 32 years and everything that we accomplished. That's the reason I'm doing this run. That's the reason I ran for State House and served two years was it's an extension of military service, and Joe Biden's put us in a ditch with this open border. And as a military intel guy, I am very concerned that we have terrorist events in our future based off of the people that have slipped across the border.
Ron Hanks (03:52):
So border is absolutely the first and foremost concern of mine and the district and frankly, all Americans. Next, I would say energy, we have to get American energy dominance back. And very briefly, Jenny Beths, when I wasn't working for the Air Force, I did some fracking up in North Dakota. So I have a good sense of the energy industry from that perspective. And I know blue collar America can bring us back when Donald Trump gets the White House, we can restart that keystone pipeline and start building back our petroleum reserves that as you know, Joe Biden has drained for political gain and so energy and then bringing American manufacturing back things that never should have left this continent in the first place should be back here in America. Lastly, it's agriculture and food supply. I see that as a national security issue and the water ends up being a big deal out here in Colorado.
Jenny Beth Martin (04:58):
That is something that I don't hear very often from candidates that agriculture and food suppliers such important issues. Why is that an important issue for you?
Ron Hanks (05:09):
Well, look at what we saw since covid with eggs going up to nine bucks a dozen, and then all of the chicken processing plants burning up, and we're sending live hogs to China for processing to bring back, and that is just a choke point for starvation and for at least supply line shortages. So I think we've done some rather shortsighted things to our food supply and we have to be thinking about that given the, what's the old adage? You're three meals away from a revolution. It might be six meals, but we can nitpick the number, but we have to keep that constant. And even with Covid, which was I think a planned demic, it was impressive and concerning how much our supply chain could be influenced by the masks and by the transportation blockages and so forth.
Jenny Beth Martin (06:17):
You mentioned that you did fracking in North Dakota. Was that after you finished the military and before you were a state rep or sometime in between? Before
Ron Hanks (06:27):
It was in about 20 13, 20 14 timeframe. I was in the Air Force for 32 years. I started off as an Arabic linguist, and that was all active duty. At some point I went and went into the reserve, and then I commissioned when nine 11 hit, given my Arabic language background, I was fairly sought after and busy, but I would deploy, take orders for nine months to a year and then come back. There was a period of time where I had an open space and I wanted to experience this gold rush of our generation. It's kind of like the Klondike and the Alaska Gold Rush. Well, it turns out I was probably a generation or two behind on my effort and the Air Force called and said, Hanks, we have a job for you in Kazakhstan doing counter drug. Would you like to do it? And I said, that's about minus 40 at the time working out there hammering iron. And I said, yes, I believe I would. But the point is I'd kind of come in and out of the Air Force as they had work available.
Jenny Beth Martin (07:45):
Now, why were you an Arabic linguist in 1984 before nine 11 happened? That seems like you had a lot of foresight or maybe some family, or how did you become that specialized?
Ron Hanks (08:01):
Well, I enlisted and I took the aptitude tests and they said I had a linguistic ability, and after that I was open for Russian because obviously that was the, with Reagan, the contest of the era, but needs of the Air Force, we all learned that phrase. I think probably on our second day in basic training needs of the Air Force come first. They needed Arabic, and I was disappointed initially, but I mean it has really been a blessing in so many ways. My understanding of the Middle East is pretty solid given the timeframe of working from Morocco to Iraq and the Saudi Peninsula as well. So I mean, I've got a good breadth of knowledge of that and of course the things on in Israel with Hamas and Hezbollah and such.
Jenny Beth Martin (09:00):
And elaborate on that. What do you think about the situation in Israel from the terrorist group, Hamas?
Ron Hanks (09:06):
Well, Iran is behind most of this, all of this, and I think the world has been incredibly patient, Jenny Beth on the whole thing of this Islamic Republic of Iran and frankly the 7th of October I think should have worn everybody's patience out. And I think regime change is in order in Iran. We've put up with this for four decades now. What are we coming up on nearly 50 years of this? And if they weren't there, and I firmly believe the majority of the Iranian people do not want to live under this Islamic revolution and republic, if they weren't there anymore, I think we could have a much more peaceful world. When Donald Trump gets back into office, I think those Abraham Accords could really start rolling again and regain the momentum, and that's certainly what Iran does not want to see happen under this Islamic republic. And I think there need to be discussions, if not out in the open among Western governments about how much longer Iran should stand and be able to support this kind of just disgusting terrorism. I mean, this was gruesome.
Jenny Beth Martin (10:35):
Now talking about the world stage, we talked about Iran. What do you think about the threats from China?
Ron Hanks (10:47):
I'm very
Jenny Beth Martin (10:48):
Concerned beyond our food supply, beyond our food supply.
Ron Hanks (10:51):
Well, they've got us six ways to Sunday there with their ability to block trade the way that they can infiltrate our equipment. And I would go straight to our election machines. The laptops are made in China, communist China by Chinese workers. I mean that's a problem and that's a long discussion. Also, our transformers, a good number of our high percentage of our electrical transformers come from China, and we had one that came into Colorado that took five years to get it. That's about the waiting list now, and it had a little blister box on it that they didn't recognize, and it's been told to me that they had it inspected and it was an add-on a kill switch. I don't know the specifics of whether it was cyber where they could kick in and monitor this or what, but the bottom line is we are setting ourselves up to be ruined simply through our trade with China and then look at all of the Chinese military age males coming across the border, the fentanyl coming across, it's killing people.
Ron Hanks (12:11):
If we start having nine 11 events, my biggest concern is we're going to have food poisonings of fentanyl, sort of like we saw up in, well, a better example probably is Chicago, the Tylenol scare back in the eighties with the cyanide in the Tylenol. And then there's been efforts for salmonella and so forth by the Raj niche sect up in Oregon. Those are the types of things I look at and I think we're being set up that that could happen at a time of the enemy's choosing. Then this is all on Joe Biden's desk. He's a traitor to me and the article three, section three aid in comfort to the enemy and he's provided it. He's let them in. He's given people that have crossed, he's given them safe passage, money, transportation, and that's aid and abetting the enemy.
Jenny Beth Martin (13:10):
Then you mentioned the military age, people from China coming into the country and you talked about the border. Briefly elaborate on what you think are the problems regarding the border and what do you envision the solutions being?
Ron Hanks (13:24):
Yeah, the problems, I've been monitoring this since I retired from the military at the end of 2017. I've made three separate trips all at my own expense, driving the roads and talking with the guards. It's a big difference between now and six years ago when I first started doing this, but initially in 2018, they were building the wall and the agents were very talkative. You could roll the window down, put your elbow out and talk between the vehicles as you're driving the easement road. When I went back in 2021, I was down in Arizona to do the Maricopa audit to look at it, and then we brought help on our second trip. I went to the border, totally different. The agents didn't want to talk to you. They'd tell you, go take all of your questions back to the field office, to the press representative.
Ron Hanks (14:18):
This can be fixed. Jenny bets with the stroke of a pen, and that's why it's imperative to get Donald Trump in the White House. He can change policy and say we're closing them. Where the remain in Mexico is back and forth. Agents are now empowered and directed to stop immigrants and retain them. And then from a legislator's perspective, what needs to be done after that is, look, we had all that material onsite ready to put up, and it's gone now. So thanks Joe Biden. Now we get to go replace that, but let's pay for it. Let's build it and let's go. If somehow we can put 60 billion, 200 billion towards Ukraine, we can surely finish the remaining mileage on our southern border. We also need to look at our northern borders and our coast. We got to beef those up as well.
Jenny Beth Martin (15:14):
Absolutely. So you mentioned those issues of border energy independence, we talked about the world stage. What are other issues that are important to you and that you are hearing when you're talking to voters as you're working to persuade voters?
Ron Hanks (15:34):
Yeah, it is certainly if I had four pillars of concern and they're all national security, it is border, it is energy, it is manufacturing, and it is ag and food supply. But as far as good governance, people want this government under control, and we haven't had a budget process that's worked since 2007, and I think that may be a little bit of a nebulous budgeting process too. Look, I think we ought to audit the Federal Reserve right off the top. I am fully on board with that. And then I think we need to have a budget for every executive branch department separately, not an omnibus spending bill that just throws things in. We ought to go from A to Z, department of Agriculture, department of Interior, department of Veterans Affairs, all the way to the end of the list, and while we're at it, we could get rid of a couple of those executive branches or blend a couple together.
Ron Hanks (16:39):
Let's get rid of Department of Education. One important distinction, Jenny bets is I hear people say the money should go back to the states. I would say no. It needs to go back to the people. It needs to either be retained by or returned to the people because I've been in the state legislature and they'd love to have the billions just do a U-turn and come back to their coffers. We got to make sure it stays in the parents' hands and pockets because this government's too expensive. We can't afford it. We don't even know what it's spending our money to do.
Jenny Beth Martin (17:18):
You're right about that. We're spending so much money and it is absolutely out of control. And when covid happened and the numbers increased, I think that we've come down a little, but we're definitely not below, not at the numbers that we were at in 2019, and we're never going to, I don't want to say we're never going to be there again, but it's going to take a lot of hard work to reign this government back in and to quit spending so much money. I think it is obscene how much money our government spends
Ron Hanks (17:56):
It is, and I think we got one shot at it, and I see this as the two phases of victory. We have to get Donald Trump back in office and then that's good, but he has to have a Congress that doesn't try to run out the clock on him. And this is going to be an important four years for Trump because it's also his last four. We're going to have a process of trying to figure out who succeeds him in the Republican leadership role by 2028. So we have to get Trump in. We have to get a conservative Congress. It's not conservative enough. We have people that quit on us like Ken Buck, Mike Gallagher, and of course Kevin McCarthy and December of 23, these are not the people we're looking for. This old tired establishment carriage is worn out and we need a Gideon's army of about 300 conservative Republicans.
Ron Hanks (18:59):
Very interesting point here in Colorado. Don't all of the Republicans have left their district? So Doug Lamborne retired, Ken Buck quit. Lauren Bobert shifted. So she's an incumbent but kind of working in new territory, but she's conservative. We have a shot at three very solid conservative districts in Colorado. Wouldn't it be nice if we put all pro-Trump people in there? There's a possibility of a fourth as well, but I would like to change the complexion of the perception of Colorado as having gone so far to the left. We could certainly do that if we have three or four pro-Trump Republicans representing the state of Colorado.
Jenny Beth Martin (19:49):
And I want to elaborate on Colorado. I do want to say one thing. Ken Buck and Mike Gallagher quitting I think are much different than Kevin McCarthy once he was no longer speaker. I think that at that point, I don't think you should pour salt in somebody's wound, and he was wounded at that point, figuratively speaking, but also more importantly, you can't have two heads of a single house, really. And so stepping aside so that Mike Johnson could be the speaker without McCarthy being in there day to day, which is similar to what happened when Bayner wound up resigning. I think that that is the right, right way to handle things. I would imagine that if he was still in the conference, it would create an even more dysfunctional Republican conference than what we have right now.
Ron Hanks (20:47):
You may be very well right on that, but the concern I have is just the numbers and the gap,
Jenny Beth Martin (20:55):
And that is absolutely, I understand what you were talking about with that. I completely understand with that. And his district was a safe district, so I, when I think about, I keep tapping that. I apologize tapping the microphone there, but when I think about the ones who quit, I think it's much different when you're looking at what Kim Buck or Mike Gallagher did not finishing out their term than McCarthy, who was forcibly removed as speaker, figuratively speaking forcibly. Okay. Now going back to Colorado, you've got the opportunity to have more conservative members of Congress, Colorado. Sure seems deep, deep blue. So what kind of encouragement can you give to people who are just not from Colorado, but from other states about how you can have conservative representation? And maybe it's not as deep blue as we think, or maybe it is, but there's still some bright red hopes.
Ron Hanks (22:02):
Well, Denver rules the roost just due to size and mass there, but the alchemy
Jenny Beth Martin (22:11):
In your district is massive, right? Yeah. I mean one congressional district and describe your district for the people listening.
Ron Hanks (22:18):
Yeah, it is big. It's 27 counties and it touches the northwest corner, whereas square state, and it touches the northwest corner, the southwest corner, and it is 50 miles from touching the southeast corner. So in the course of my travels, I just about see all three of 'em, 27 counties. Much of it is west of the continental divide, the western slope, but there's a lot, there's all of the southern Colorado there as well. So water ends up being a big deal because we've got water flowing east, west, and south, and we've got all kinds of issues and we're the point of origin of water for all the downstream. So that's another big issue that's going to be on the radar. One of the most important things for people of Colorado is that we own the water as it's here, and we need to not give up our rights to a federal government that is working to land grab with this 30 by 30 agenda. And all these monuments that are coming up where the Dolores Monument on the western side, they are trying to lock up grazing land, but also uranium and vanadium mining areas. That's the majority of our uranium and vanadium comes from that area. It's all land grabs, and so that's what we're trying to fight and a district this big, they're trying to grab it from all over.
Jenny Beth Martin (23:55):
I want you to go back to Colorado in just a second, but hold on. Yes, ma'am. You're talking about things that make a lot of sense to the people who live out west, but the people who live in the East coast don't quite understand these things. When you talk about a monument, you're not talking about a statue in the middle of a park. You're actually talking about basically it's almost a national park, right? It's designated as a park, but it is treated very similarly to what a national park is treated when you're talking about the monument like that, right?
Ron Hanks (24:29):
Yes. And I appreciate you making that distinction and clarity for folks. Yeah. National Monument in this case, they don't know how much they want. They just know they want to grab it, and the they I'm referring to is the federal government, and frankly, the globalist whole purpose of this, the world agenda, Dolores Monument is somewhere in the neighborhood of 600,000 to 1.4 million acres. We've got grassland out of the district. I was just looking at old maps where they're trying to add another 600,000 acres of grassland down in the San Luis Valley, which touches the Rio Grande goes through, and it touches New Mexico. They're looking at some kind of a land grab, but they don't even know what they want yet, whether it's a conservation area, whether it's a national wildlife, they've got all these different terminologies for it. And what they do is they come in with this grandiose, non-governmental organization that has shiny signs and signup sheets and how great they're going to be for the community.
Ron Hanks (25:46):
And oh, your place looks torn down and worn out, but if we make this a monument, it will thrive and people aren't buying it. But I can tell you from the outside looking in with all the shiny pamphlets, it looks compelling, but the fact is it makes grazing harder. It makes hunting harder. It makes recreation harder, and nobody can make a gate like the US government. They can decide that they want to close a road and they'll have a cast iron gate that you can't cut the lock, shoot the lock, even if it's your mining claim for instance, you can't get to it. They build them, right? That's our federal government now. It isn't land of many uses and for the people, it's lock it up and watch it burn or keep it under our control, so nobody else can use it except those we deem worthy. And frankly, the problem we have is the people they deem worthy ain't us. It's a bigger global scheme.
Jenny Beth Martin (26:59):
Okay. Now going back, because I completely interrupted, you were talking about Colorado and you said that Denver controls most of Colorado, so keep going. I'm just trying to refresh your memory
Ron Hanks (27:10):
There. Yes, ma'am. Just by population and politics, it's left. It's gotten more left. I think the tech Boone came in, that seems to be kind of the precursor for big change, but the other districts outside of that, the rural areas are still very rural. We have several counties in this state that have under a thousand people live in them. They are considered frontier counties, and those remain conservative because there's the traditional way of life of farming and ranching. And of course the hunting in Colorado is first class. There's, as we this country progresses, there's fewer and fewer hunters. But as a land management process, the hunting has been a very effective way to maintain the balance of in nature. So yeah, it's very conservative, and so I think people should take a little bit of heart, and I think this is going to be a watershed election.
Ron Hanks (28:22):
Jenny Beth, I firmly believe as a military intel guy that's done a lot of analysis and briefing, this one feels like our last election in the sense that this government doesn't feel like it's serving the people. I don't even think it's by the people. I think this is really a face card for a puppet, and this regime is purely the face of a much larger globalist effort. And whether you believe that or not, we can at least agree that it's not serving the interests of the people and it needs to be replaced. If we don't replace it in this election, I think they have the ability to suspend all of them in the future. I guess a final point I'd make is it's funny how many foreign nationals I've met that used to live under communism have come to this country, become American citizens and say, what's happening to this country? I saw this in Poland when I left Communist Poland or any place else, and they know better probably than the average American born citizen. The steps and the, I think we're seeing them right now.
Jenny Beth Martin (29:44):
Yeah, I think that this election is pivotal. I don't think that we won't have elections again. I think we still will have elections again, but I think that the next four and a half years in our country, we've got massive just real issues that if we don't get a handle of them and we don't get the right solutions in place, now we are going to be suffering the consequences of them for years and years and years to come in ways we can't even imagine. And I think that what you're talking about with people who are here in America and they escaped from communism or socialism, they understand where we're headed, communist countries, socialist countries, they don't thrive the same way that America has thrived in the past. And we have to make sure that we are thriving and that each American family has the opportunity to do so as well.
Ron Hanks (30:44):
Yeah, I totally agree with you. And I think we may have elections, you may be right about that, but they're going to look like Venezuelas or some Arab sheikdom where it's, Hey, we win 98 to two again, and I think we've got to get our elections fixed because both sides of the aisle, Republican Democrat have concerns about it. And that's the one way to walk ourselves back from a civil war is for all of us to have confidence in our election results.
Jenny Beth Martin (31:22):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think that we're recording this in the last week in May. I think that I read over the weekend that Hillary Clinton was out again saying that if Trump was elected, we would have no more elections in this country. So you have both sides of the aisle saying something that is devastating if it were to happen. But the fact of the matter is whether Democrats want to admit it or not before 2020, if they want to pretend like this didn't happen, whatever, but before 2020, they had problems and they had doubts in the outcome of elections. Republicans now have problems and doubts in the outcome of elections, and we have to restore that faith in the outcome of the election regardless of who wins. I mean, I care about who wins, but we have to restore that faith in order to maintain stability and to maintain the peaceful transfer of power in our country and for it to be a country with the consent of the governed, we have to restore that faith because if we don't have it, we can't trust that the people who are governing us actually have our consent.
Jenny Beth Martin (32:30):
And it's a real problem that must be addressed.
Ron Hanks (32:34):
Yeah, I completely agree. And when I was elected in 2020, I believe Donald Trump was also elected, but that turned out differently. It became my focus. I did not know I would be focusing on election integrity, but we are in a problem right now with what we have and it has to have both a state solution and a federal solution. But bottom line, I think we need to zero out our voter rolls and start over. They're overinflated judicial watch has proven that they had a settlement even here in Colorado because we have more eligible voters than actual residents in some counties. But we need to get rid of the old voter rolls, start over, use photo IDs, and now after this border incursion, Jenny Beth, I believe we're going to need to show proof of citizenship, and I think that's going to be huge. And let's get rid of mail-in ballots. We went from 30% mail-in pre covid to over 70% post covid. There's a no chain of custody in that process, and there's just a dozen issues with our elections. That ought to be what the common American would agree to, even if the parties want to sit here and throw knives at each other, this is where the American people can really transcend political parties. In my opinion.
Jenny Beth Martin (34:03):
That is absolutely correct, and you are right. We need proof of citizenship. I would say you need the proof of citizenship to register to vote, and then just proof of voter ID to vote. And I see that because most people aren't going to be going to vote with their passport or their driver. I mean, not their driver's license, but their birth certificate, but they carry around their driver's license all the time. So proof of citizenship to register to vote. And then once your registered voter ID, and I was at the press conference several weeks ago with Speaker Mike Johnson and Congressman Chip Roy and Senator Mike Lee rolling out the Save Act, which is safeguarding America's Voter Eligibility Act. And I think it's just critical that we do that. But it's not just me who thinks it's critical to do this. 86% of Americans agree on this issue, 86% including over 80% of Democrats. This is a cross, cross-party issue. It's not even bipartisan. It's just an American issue and Americans understand that,
Ron Hanks (35:15):
Right? Yeah. It's interesting, isn't it, to see in 2020 all the role changes where the Democrats who Kamala Harris included in 2016, there's testimony or video of her in the Senate talking about these election systems being hacked. And then in 2020 when they win, it's the most secure in history. And that's a lie. It's an absolute lie, but it served their political purpose. And I think once the American people understand that the parties aren't going to work this as well as the citizens do, then I think we can advance the cause of pure and honest elections.
Jenny Beth Martin (36:04):
Absolutely. So I have two more questions for you. The first one is this. What would be the first thing you'd do or first series of things that you would do when you get to Washington if you're elected?
Ron Hanks (36:16):
Okay, it all comes down to electing a conservative speaker because we have to find the man or woman that will take on that role that will schedule this make America great agenda, and we'll start passing budgets for each individual department. We'll talk, we're going to have to work with President Trump very quickly to figure out which departments we can eliminate, downsize, freeze, hold in place, whatever. But those would be the things. Let's get a speaker in there and then let's start working budgets. One thing I'd like to see on our budgeting process, and frankly the legislative process is one issue per bill. And with a citizen summary page and an expiration date on every single bill, this Congress in my estimation, ought to be spending as much or more time determining whether old bills need to be renewed or rejected. That should become the schedule. Not all this new legislation that everybody wants to put their name on and a beautiful funny acronym and all that. Let's get this government smaller. We don't even know what it spends right now, so this Congress should be spending time tearing it down, figuring out where all this money went to.
Jenny Beth Martin (37:46):
Those are very good things to work on, and I'm glad that that is what you would be working on. Alright. The very last question is this, who is your favorite founding father?
Ron Hanks (37:56):
Well, I guess it's always Jefferson because been to Monticello a few times and I appreciate God, what a breadth of knowledge and interest he had and what a writer, so I guess it would be him. But we were just talking about John Adams interaction with Thomas Jefferson last night and wondering why there was any friction we're looking at. In some ways, I feel like the people that we're dealing with now are refounding this nation, and now we know firsthand the interplay and interrelational issues. But you wonder why those great men back 250 years ago had any kind of interpersonal problems. They're also monumental.
Jenny Beth Martin (38:51):
Yes, that is true, but they also are men, and we understand the nature of men, and sometimes that is to bicker among ourselves about things that later don't even seem very important.
Ron Hanks (39:04):
Yeah, true. Very true.
Jenny Beth Martin (39:07):
Well, thank you so much for joining us now. If people want to get in, follow your campaign, get involved, where should they go? How can they learn a little bit more about you?
Ron Hanks (39:16):
Sure. I'd be grateful if they did. Best place to find anything out about me is hanks for colorado.com, and it's hank's FOR colorado.com. I put up a lot of reports, like a tear report of my assessment as a military guy about the threats we're under taking data from other experts. I've gone to the border, I've written reports on it. There's a lot of material on there that kind of a little bit larger than the average campaign, and I'd invite people to take a look at that. And I'm grateful for the time on your show and grateful for the things that you've done. I think we've crossed paths a few times. I'm not sure our paths ever bumped, but we were within a few feet of each other, so it's good to have the time on here and thank you for it.
Jenny Beth Martin (40:10):
Well, thank you so much. Thanks for stepping up to Run. I wish you luck. Thank you. And I hope that everyone goes and checks out your website@hinksforcolorado.com. Thanks so much for joining me today, Ron.
Ron Hanks (40:21):
Thank you, ma'am. Thank you very much.
Narrator (40:22):
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