Jenny Beth sits down with Dr. Steve LaTulippe who had 100% success treating Covid-19 patients before there were recommended treatments by the government. When he spoke out about the Covid tyranny, the Oregon State Medical Board revoked his medical license and violated his First Amendment rights.
Jenny Beth sits down with Dr. Steve LaTulippe who had 100% success treating Covid-19 patients before there were recommended treatments by the government. When he spoke out about the Covid tyranny, the Oregon State Medical Board revoked his medical license and violated his First Amendment rights.
We would normally share Twitter accounts here, but his account remains suspended by Twitter/X.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (00:00):
It has always been the grassroots efforts that have made us a strong nation. And if we dare to be the resistance to oppose the enemy, to keep speaking the truth, learn the truth, and speak it.
Narrator (00:15):
Keeping our republic is on the line. And it requires patriots with great passion, dedication, and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms. Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots. She's an author, a filmmaker, and one of time magazine's most influential people in the world. But the title she is most proud of is Mom To Her Boy, girl Twins. She has been at the forefront fighting to protect America's core principles for more than a decade. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show.
Jenny Beth Martin (00:47):
Add this to the list of things you never thought you'd see in the United States. A doctor loses his medical license for using his first amendment rights to speak at a public demonstration over his concerns for the way the government handled a pandemic just a decade ago. Such cancellation and censorship would've been unimaginable in America. But now this kind of thing is happening far too often. My next guest is Dr. Steve Tulip. He's a doctor, an ordained minister, and an Air Force veteran. He's one of the many medical professionals that has been scrutinized for his view on how the c Ovid 19 pandemic was handled. In his situation, the Oregon Medical Board revoked his license to practice medicine, and now Dr. Tulip is appealing this decision in a case that could go all the way to the Supreme Court. Dr. Steve Tulip, thank you so much for joining us today. I think that we connected online, um, through, um, some, some online groups of, of doctors in 2020, before the election in 2020. And then I really got to know you better after something horrible happened to you in 20, at the end of 2020. So, so what has happened with your medical license and have you experienced any oppression from the government?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (02:13):
Ah, yes. Uh, Jane Beth, thank you for having me today. Um, I must say that, um, I have been extremely oppressed, uh, ultimately by the government, specifically by the Oregon Medical Board, simply because I decided to take it upon myself to be faithful to my oath as a physician, in that I was, I believe, the only medical doctor who stayed open in Polk County, Oregon through the entire pandemic. And I treated every one of my patients, and I had great success. In fact, a hundred percent of my patients recovered with the full covid, uh, spectrum of symptoms. And they recovered in about a week's time. And, um, I had none of them go to the emergency department. None were hospitalized. They all got better. They all moved on with their lives. So that turned out to be a crime. Um, but specifically, I was taken down after I spoke publicly to announce to the world that maybe we ought not to really fear this virus, whatever it was.
(03:19):
'cause we really didn't know what it was, what we were dealing with at that time, in 2020 after they declared the pandemic. But I said, look, I've treated all of my patients and they all got better. In fact, the very next day when I would check up on them, they said, wow, 80% better already. I feel great, doc, thank you so much. And for that, because I told the world that, and specifically, I mean, let's remember number one, I told them that there is a very effective treatment that happened to be very cheap as well, and very, um, obtainable. Uh, and in this was in November, on November 7th, 2020, of course, the next month, they were planning to come out the, with the vaccine program, uh, which was allowed by emergency youth authorization. And you cannot have a treatment, uh, in order for that to be legally implemented.
(04:16):
And so I just told the world that there is a treatment, which means the emergency use authorization is, is not legal, it's not valid. And of course, that would rob big pharma of an awful lot of money. And of course, I didn't realize I was doing that at the time. But in hindsight, I see very clearly why the Oregon Medical Board had to take me down. I was an enemy of, of organized medicine, big pharma, and whatever else was in the making, which we pretty well know now that this is by a warfare. And, uh, it was implemented and I intervened. So they had to make sure and make an example of me so that no one else would dare step up in the public and speak the truth.
Jenny Beth Martin (05:03):
So explain that part that you were just talking about, how, uh, with the emergency use authorization, just a little bit more. So in order for the vaccine to be made available, it was made available through the emergency use authorization. Explain what that is and what the norm, what the normal procedure is for a drug to be authorized to use what an emergency use authorization is. Sure. And the limitations that should be on an emergency use authorization if treatment exists.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (05:36):
Right. It's in, in the most simplest way, uh, to put it. If you have a treatment for any disease process, then you cannot, um, have, um, an untested substance. Therapeutic substance may be it a medication or a vaccine or whatever. It would not be authorized, uh, without being tested, thoroughly tested to be proven to be safe and effective. And of course, those are the two words that we've heard associated with this toxic shot. And it was anything but safe and effective. But when someone comes forward and say, look, I effectively treated my patients, um, with whatever medications I used, and by the way, they were not hydroxychloroquine because they pull that off of the shelves in Oregon. It was not available. And Ivermectin was not out at that time, was not known. But I used simply what I had used always for severe, um, influenza like illness throughout my career as a medical doctor.
(06:35):
And it worked extremely well simply because I knew what I was treating. I, uh, was formerly a microbiologist, and that was before a medical doctor. And we know that if we can suppress the cytokine storm, which is a response from the immune system reacting to the virus and prevent that damage, then things are gonna be okay. You are going to recover. Um, so, uh, emergency use authorization was absolutely misused, abused, and it was done so for a reason. And that reason, uh, actually goes back to the D O D Department of Defense. Uh, there was a sinister plan, I believe that was put forth. And now, uh, we have overwhelming evidence to prove that. So because I exposed it, I I quickly became an enemy of the current government.
Jenny Beth Martin (07:30):
And what happened to you then?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (07:32):
Well, as soon as, um, uh, I returned from a vacation, uh, from Oregon out of, or excuse me, uh, in Arizona, and, um, I didn't know it, but I was sent a bullying letter from the executive director of the Oregon Medical Board, uh, Dr. David Ferris, um, who apparently saw the video of my speech when I spoke at the Capitol Building on November 7th, 2020. I did not know it, but the R n C of Multnomah County, which is in Portland, came down and they made a video recording of my speech, and that went viral globally the very next day. So apparently the Oregon Maca Board got ahold of it. And then Dr. David Ferris wrote me a letter on November 9th saying that I had better get, uh, my ducks in line and follow Governor Kate Brown, who is telling me how to practice medicine. Namely, I must wear a mask and I must, uh, not treat patients.
(08:35):
Uh, these patients were told to go home and quarantine for two weeks. There is no effective treatment. And that is actually in the bullying letter and other documents from the Oregon Medical Board. There is no treatment for Covid. Um, and I had to ask the question, what do you mean there's no treatment? How could all of my patients gotten better? And as well as other, many other doctors now who have treated effectively, that's just a blatant lie. They are lying to us. But the problem is they have no accountability. There is a far re overreaching, um, government, uh, by way of the medical state, medical boards, and they have become a weapon against good medical doctors. And this is something that we have to fight, we have to rectify somehow. It's very difficult to do, however, because they will do everything they can to stay out of a real court of law. They function in kangaroo courts, and those are the administrative, uh, courts. They have an administrative law judge who acts as an advisor. I'm sorry, they are all sold out to the organizations that pay them. So you're never going to get an honest, fair just decision in an administrative court.
Jenny Beth Martin (09:54):
I completely agree. And you're certainly not getting a jury trial or a jury by your peers.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (10:00):
By no means, by no means, uh, you there is no such thing as due process. The Constitution is completely thrown out the window in administrative courts, and I'm stating this as a fact. For example, when they hung me, uh, they suspended my license by emergency Declaration and emergency order because I was declared in immediate danger to my patients and to the public for what? For treating my patients effectively. None of them died. None of them went to the hospital. They got better. But I am suddenly a threat to my own patients because I did what I was supposed to do. I treated them, they got better. That was a crime. That's not the way they wanted it to go.
Jenny Beth Martin (10:48):
The administrative court judges don't even usually go through, um, a confirmation process the way normal judges do or through an election process. If it is a state court. Sometimes state courts are appointed, or they judges are appointed, or they are elected. And then federally they are, they have, if you're going to be a judge, you have to go before the United States Senate and go through an entire confirmation process, right. And vetting process. But administrative court judges, they bypass all of this. They
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (11:19):
Do. And here's the funny thing. The administrative law judge has no authority to impose penalties whatsoever. The acting judge is the medical board, in this case, the Oregon Medical Board. Now, it's really funny because the Oregon Medical Board is designed to pr to, to protect the public, supposedly their, their mission to protect the public from rogue physicians. Uh, physicians are allowed to practice medicine because they have been trained to do that and proven to be competent. However, here we have an Oregon Medical Board consisting of physicians, uh, maybe attorneys or whatever, people from the community selected by the governor to practice law, if you will. They are incompetent. They have no credentials. They have no jurisprudence training whatsoever. And yet they are allowed to make every decision. And the other courts will honor them because they were acting with judicial immunity. And that's their great declaration. Oh, we're innocent. We can't be charged with anything. We were acting in the capacity of judge. And that's purely bogus. This is nonsense. This is lawlessness is what it is. And it is criminal ultimately, that they can destroy good physicians at the drop of a hat by their whim, regardless of what they know. And I can assure you this, the medical doctors associated with state medical boards, oftentimes, not always, but oftentimes are not the most competent doctors in the world. I'll just say that.
Jenny Beth Martin (12:55):
Speaking of competency, you have quite an accomplished history. You studied biomedicine. Do you have a PhD in
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (13:04):
Biomedicine? I was in a PhD in microbiology. I was teaching microbiology, yes. Teaching, doing research. I bailed on the program simply because, uh, I couldn't see myself looking down a microscope my whole career. So then I started, uh, flying career in the military. Um, I flew heavy aircraft. I then flew fighter aircraft, the R F four C uh, phantom with the, uh, Idaho International Guard. And then later got, I got out, went to medical school, and then went back into the Oregon International Guard. And I retired there, uh, as chief of medicine. And, um, enjoyed a good military career. I liked the comradery. Uh, I did not like the red tape. Um, of course we were fighting a lot of things while I was in there, uh, with smallpox and all the anthrax threat and things like that. And so I saw a lot of this coming up and I was questioning much of it then, uh, this whole agenda of a takeover, uh, of medicine. The mutiny of medicine has been in the planning stages for many years, and they are finally now realizing it's, they saw their opportunity and they took it, and they will still press the issue further. I am convinced of that.
Jenny Beth Martin (14:20):
Why are you convinced of that?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (14:21):
Um, we see, well, we just, the writing's on the wall, we have heard Anthony Fauci, for example, say that he wants to, uh, he's doing research gain of function research with the hemorrhagic fever viruses, uh, Ebola marburg virus. And, um, he's busy, pretty much told us that. Well, we've been told point blank that the SARS cov to two virus was just kind of a little test. There's something more coming. And I believe that this was so effective in the take down of people, but also globally, it destroys so many people. And of course, the, uh, so-called vaccine is killing so many people that it was a mission accomplished for them, and it was so successful that why would they not try it again? And in fact, they are in many ways. Uh, and I've been looking into a lot with, uh, for example, uh, edible vaccines. They're, they're pushing that they're doing research to try and do the same thing, splice whatever, uh, toxic segments like the spike protein into the chloroplast of plant cells so that you go to the, uh, grocery store for produce and you will be able to, according to what they claim, you'll be able to grow your own vaccines in your gar garden and take your shot what weekly when you eat your lettuce or whatever, you know? I mean, that's what they're playing.
Jenny Beth Martin (15:41):
What could possibly go wrong with that?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (15:42):
Right. Right. I mean, we've seen nothing but, well, we don't know what it is, sudden deaths. Right. But, you know, they stopped calling them sudden deaths because people were really catching on. So now it's died after a brief illness,
Jenny Beth Martin (15:57):
Uh, died after a brief illness. I've also noticed though, died after cardiac arrest. And we're not talking about 50 year old men or 60 year old men. I, I've noticed it's even children dying Absolutely. After cardiac arrest. Absolutely. It's alarming how, um, if you just go Google that and look at news headlines from, I, I sadly sure did that recently, trying to verify if something I saw online was right or not. And not only was it right, there were four others in a month's time, and I, children don't have cardiac arrest. That's not normal.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (16:35):
Right. And, and 30 year old, uh, healthy, uh, men and women don't just die. And in fact, uh, just a few days ago, I was talking to a friend, uh, who, uh, had to go to a funeral for a 30 something year old, 32 year old who died of a cardiac arrest, just, um, went to sleep, uh, on the couch and never woke up and had had, I believe, three of the, uh, the shots. So, um, the, the, the tyranny persists, and we are gonna see a whole lot more of this. The genocide is still in progress, and I believe they will do everything within their power to perpetuate it. And we have to inform the club. Like we cannot sit back and do nothing, say nothing when this is happening.
Jenny Beth Martin (17:21):
No, we cannot. And you have not. Um, and I wanna go back in a moment to more of what you've done, because you haven't been sitting back and saying nothing. When you were in the military, we mentioned that you have an accompli, you have quite a, a list of accomplishments. You were in the military, and you also became an ordained pastor or minister during that time.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (17:43):
Yes. I went to, uh, the Boise Bible College, and I was attending that while I was flying the Phantoms with the Idaho International Guard. I later went on to seminary. Um, and then from there afterwards, um, I applied for medicine after one of my students from University of Massachusetts at Amherst in the, my, my girl biology days. He had graduated, finished residency and said, why didn't you become a doctor? And I said, well, I never thought about it. I was an absolute screwball in high school, and so least likely to succeed. I played hockey. I was captain of the hockey team. And, uh, that was my life. Little old me. And that's all I knew. And I had to wake up and grow up. And so I enlisted two weeks after high school and then went through a whole bunch of different things and found out, wow, if you actually study and apply yourself, uh, you can do pretty much whatever you want. And I was really thrilled to do that. So I then went into medicine and I found my niche. I really, I loved medicine. It came easy to me. I loved the opportunity to help people to intervene so that people's lives would be better because I was there.
Jenny Beth Martin (18:51):
You, you love medicine and you wanted, wanted to be able to intervene and make people's lives better. And the Oregon Medical Board has prevented you from being able to do that. How does that make you feel?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (19:05):
Uh, yes. It, it makes me feel very sad for them because they're so pathetic. They think they are doing something good, something righteous. They are deceived. They are grossly deceived. And unfortunately, um, I discovered when they tried to take me down after I filed a federal lawsuit against the Oregon Medical Board, they opened up two bogus investigations on me with regard to pain medicine. Pain medicine was something I was very good at. I didn't go into it because I wanted to, it was because I saw the need, and I had a natural inclination to do it well. But I found that they were very incompetent with regard to pain medicine. And when they were challenging me, trying to set up traps for me, uh, to take me down so that they could get, they could have my federal lawsuit nullified, I realized they really didn't know what they were talking about.
(19:59):
And I guess a little bit of my frenchness came out because I had to tell them, you don't know what you're talking about. And I proved it to them. And so I exposed them. And that's just a tacit rule. You're not supposed to do that to the medical board. Remember, it's just truth or not. This is not what they're interested in. They must always look good. They must be viewed as the good guys by the public. If the public truly knew what sinister little demons they were, they would be astonished. Because the state medical boards as well as the Federation of State Medical Boards, uh, are agencies now that are destroying the good doctors who truly take of patients. We are in a fight for our lives as independent physicians who are sworn to being faithful to our oath, to always put the patient first, to take care of them. That is not what current medicine wants us to do. And that's a pitiful shame.
Jenny Beth Martin (21:06):
It, it is a pitiful shame. Um, it, it, it's shameful and it's maddening at the same time. It, especially to me, I'm not a doctor. I, I wanna know that when I'm sick, I'm going to go to a competent doctor who I can trust. And pretty much any doctor that I, where I went, if they made me put a mask on in the lobby, I would comply, grudgingly, mm-hmm.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (21:57):
Very good. You know, I admire your common sense, uh, and your ability to see through the deception, because you're absolutely correct. There's any doctor, uh, that will choose to be so blind is to say the mask is in any way an effective barrier against viral illness is absolutely duped. And it has to be willful ignorance. If they actually are medical doctors, there's just no other way about it. They choose to reject the best science that we have.
Jenny Beth Martin (22:31):
And once they do that, and the, and a patient loses confidence in them, it, I think that's, its, that is shameful. And it, it's, it, it's a sad situation. I know that there are a lot of patients who didn't lose confidence. They, they didn't, didn't research things the way I did and, and weren't worried the same way I was when the world started locking down. But it makes me so angry to see what's happened to you and to so many other doctors like you that would happen to you. You're not the only one. You're not the only one who a medical board has come after, and they've tried to take the medical license, and in your case, they've been successful at this. You cannot practice medicine right now, can you?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (23:15):
I cannot. I did apply for a, a license in Florida because I was told that Florida would not turn me down because I had a clean record before, uh, the covid, uh, pandemic. And they said that they would not, uh, penalize a persecuted physician. And so I went in good faith, applied for the license, took the painstaking steps that I had to take only to fly to Florida and be told, I'm sorry. It is our policy. This is the Florida Medical Board. Uh, it is our policy that we must deny you a license because you still have an open case in Oregon. And now that case was closed because of a district, uh, judge, district court judge in Oregon sided with the Oregon Medical Board stating that me not having any due process was okay. Therefore, I just recently appealed to the Oregon Supreme Court on May 24th.
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Surprisingly, and not surprisingly at all, a few days later, I received a, a letter from the Department of Health and Human Surfaces from the, uh, office of the Inspector General stating that I will forever be banned from seeing Medicare patients or anybody in the government system. Well, let me tell you, I emailed them back and I said, thank you for your active mercy, because there is no way I would ever choose to participate in a broken system that is so evil. I said, it must be rectified if we can correct it. I would love to practice medicine again. It was my ministry in medicine.
Jenny Beth Martin (24:56):
I it's, it's just, it's so awful. It's wrong when you've got a good doctor who figured out a way to take the knowledge and experience that he had from treating illnesses previously, specifically viruses, and apply that knowledge to be able to treat a, a novel virus and see people's lives and prevent them from dying, and then be punished for doing that and for speaking up about it. And you have a First Amendment right in this country to say what you wanna say, to petition your government to, to assemble with other people. All of this is anti-American, and it's unconstitutional and it's wrong. And there are other doctors, this has happened to you. Have you been in touch with any of them?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (25:40):
Um, let me tell you, I was in touch with one, um, I'm trying to think. Was it today or yesterday? One doctor is fighting a battle, um, from Puerto Rico, and the charges against her are being lodged in, uh, or for some reason being put forth in Boston in Massachusetts. I received notice from another doctor who just said, she notified me that she surrendered her medical license in California because the abuse that she was taking for simply treating Covid back when with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin two effective medications to treat viruses. Um, you, you know, California has become an absolute communist state. It is no secret. They don't even try to hide it. And she just got tired. And I understand that to fight this battle day in and day out, if you are a fighter, you're gonna take a head beating. No matter what you do, they will come after you because they know that they have to defeat us. And the, uh, the pirating of medicine was such an effective way to launch this attack against America because people certainly do fear a any threats to their health. Um, and so the ones that who would give them the reassurance, the confidence, and actually give them the healing, these people have to be taken down if the, the population will still continue to live in fear. That's what they want. And we alleviate that fear by being good medical doctors. So these are the ones under attack.
Jenny Beth Martin (27:20):
It. It's just, it's, it's just one of the worst things that I've seen. And sadly, I wasn't, I'm not surprised by it. I wish I could say that. I, I, I was shocked by it. I'm, I'm not surprised by it. Um, we did a documentary back in 2012 about Obamacare, and the, the documentary is called The Determinator, who the, whoever has the power, I, I forgot the subtitle, but it's called The Determinator. And Dr. Claire Gray from North Carolina Physicians for Reform as his nonprofit organization. I spoke to him one day in, in probably early 2012, and he was telling me, I have this whole thought about Obamacare. And, and he, he described the way he thought of it, and really the way I'm summarizing our documentary and the, and our documentary was based on his, his thinking is that it is a difference between, um, Hippocrates and Plato and the Hippocratic Oath versus Plato. So individual care and making sure that you're doing what's best for the patient versus taking care of the whole of society instead of the individual patient. And that, that was what Obamacare is doing. It's taking the power away from, from the doctor patient relationship in replacing it with a, a doctor government patient relationship.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (28:56):
Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. Obamacare was the beginning of the end of good medicine in America. Its intent was that the government would take control, full control of medicine. And of course, we should have learned that lesson from Germany. Or anytime the government takes control of medicine, horrible, horrible things happen. And they are happening now. And yes, absolutely Obamacare was anything but care. But it was certainly instituted by an imposter, as far as I'm concerned, um, who was installed into our government, fabricated into the web so he could do his damage. And that is when it really began in earnest to destroy medicine.
Jenny Beth Martin (29:46):
And the same thing that we were fighting with Obamacare, that Hippocrates versus Plato had I not, I, I fought Obamacare and the Tea Party movement thought Obamacare. Many of the people who were watching those were part of those that, that fight trying to prevent it from becoming law, trying to defund it. Um, and we were un we were unsuccessful with that and, and trying to repeal it. And the governor of the great state of Arizona prevented that from happening. Not the governor, but the senator prevented that from happening with his, his final vote on the repeal vote. Had we not done the document, had I not talked to Dr. Clair Gray and done the documentary and understood that difference between the, the philosophical difference between Plato and Hippocrates and thought, thought of that battle a little bit differently in, in thought of it in a much deeper historical term, not just going back to, to the Soviet Union or to to Germany, but going back much longer in time.
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I don't know that I would've been as prepared and ready to fight the lockdowns, but, and in to connect doctors around the country. But I had that knowledge and I started watching the lockdowns happen and knew this was bad for the economy, and started reaching out to a handful of doctors going, what do you think of this? And finally, I just was like, I'm going to find doctors. There have gotta be more doctors who think that this is wrong and figure out how I can connect them. And I've been doing that ever since. And now I, there's a, a benefit from it. I'm like, every time I think I might be sick, I'm like, well, I know I can find an expert doctor in my network of doctors, but we sure I've helped, I've helped start, um, three different coalitions of doctors because they're focused on different things.
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So there was Simone Gold and Amer America's Frontline doctors, and then Dr. Peter McCullough, and he has a listserv and has done amazing, amazing work. And then also, Dr. Ben, well, actually I guess I've helped with four, Dr. Ben Marble with the My Free Doctor mm-hmm.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (32:20):
Absolutely. That's so critical. It really is. And we have to pull together, we are fighting a war right now, and it's one that we must not lose because if we do lose it, we will lose our country and then we will see tyranny like we have never seen before. Um, I, I find it very interesting you cite going back to history and even ancient history, if you will. Um, I would really challenge people to even look back at all the past world pandemics, because what you'll find is that aside from one, which is the B bubonic plague, um, all the other, um, all the other pandemics led to devastation, not because of the bug, but because of the treatment, the wrong treatment. And that's what, uh, the, the Spanish flu was all about, overdosing people with aspirin causing pulmonary edema, pulmonary congestion, they were all, all these young people dying just like we saw with covid. And it didn't have to happen. The truth is, in the present day and age, if we ever to have, were to have a, an actual natural pandemic, the best thing to do is no treatment at all. And natural immunity will quickly, uh, gain the force to overwhelm the virus, and it'll be over. We'll see a, a just a, a rapid spike and then a rapid drop, and it'll be done with, but that's exactly what they don't want because they are using these as a weapon. And,
Jenny Beth Martin (33:54):
And when you're talking about that, it doesn't mean that doctors can't look for a way. One of the things I've learned, and I'm not a doctor, so you correct me where I'm wrong, if you look for a way to treat the symptoms, you know how to treat symptoms. And if you can treat symptoms, oftentimes you can save lives because you know which, which medication and which other treat medical type treatments can make a difference with each of the individual symptoms. And by taking care of treating the symptoms, you can oftentimes prevent the death. Sure. And that's what happened with C O V I D. And it's, what's happened with AIDS is what am I right? Yes,
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (34:31):
You're you're right. And, and the, you know, that's the whole purpose of a doctor is to make life a little bit easier to alleviate suffering. So sure, anytime I had a patient, even with a common cold, I mean, it's miserable if I can shorten the effects of the illness or take these horrible symptoms and bring 'em down to a much lower level so that they will get through this. Yeah. The body does a wonderful job. God has given us the best protection against disease and the illness that we have, and that's our own immune system. If we let the immune system work and don't cause it actively cause it to dysfunction, it's gonna serve you very, very well. We treat the symptoms, as you say, to alleviate suffering. Um, but the deaths themselves are very, very rare if we simply do the right thing.
Jenny Beth Martin (35:20):
Yeah. It's, it's very, and we didn't, I mean, we were doing the ventilators. We didn't need,
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (35:25):
We were killing patients. We Yes.
Jenny Beth Martin (35:28):
It, it, it's, it's heartbreaking to know that we did that. And some of what happened in nursing homes, also, just the decisions that were being made. And I, I do ha I, I give, I give everyone who were all of the government officials who are making the decisions at the very, very beginning. And, and there were, there were mistakes that happened and, and it cost people lives. I do give the government dis officials a bit of grace because they were dealing with something they had not dealt with before. And, um, if they had looked at hi the history of pandemics, they may have re re responded differently. Nevertheless, I can't give them a little bit of grace there, but quickly they should have realized, whoa, wait a minute, maybe we shouldn't be doing this. And instead they just doubled down and tripled down. And let,
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (36:20):
Let me share this with you, Jenny Beth, I just reviewed for a person that had got a hold of me, um, through actually one of, uh, Kerry Lake's, um, campaign, uh, events. She told her story of her husband who she claims was killed at one of the local hospitals here in Arizona. I reviewed 5,200 pages of hospital records, chart notes and so forth. And all I can conclude, and by the way, yes, I've been a hospitalist before. I've done intensive care, uh, worked with I C U patients. And so I watched what they did sequentially, and I can only conclude that this was intentional premeditated murder. They know what they did, they feel guilty about it, but they were too afraid to say anything or to go against the narrative because it would've cost them their jobs and their livelihood, and perhaps their reputation has happened to me.
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So very few people are going to have the spine to stand up and say, this is wrong. This is evil. This must be stopped. And I am ready and willing to go to court. Uh, this woman has a strong case. I mean, you look at the, the evidence for rem dessi killing patients, so something like 54% death rate, and of course that's with Anthony Fauci says, that is what is going to be used to treat the Covid virus. Come on, give me a break. That, that alone is highly, highly suspicious. And of course, look at how much money they made off of it all. Look at how incentivized were the hospitals to declare a patient to be covid regardless. I mean, they could have had a hangnail and they would've called them a covid patient because that greatly increases the reimbursement. How do they confirm it with a, a completely inaccurate P c r test? So, you know, they, they can manipulate the data very, very easily and make the picture look to be something that it totally is not, it is a very dark picture that is painted when you look at the real details
Jenny Beth Martin (38:37):
In my heart, breaks for the people who, who had to go through that kind of, that kind of loss unnecessarily. We're, we're all, we're all going to die. And some of the audience members may not like hearing that, but it's the truth. We're not all going to live forever. And I think that our society, sometimes we want to pretend that death doesn't happen. And, and it does. And you know that as a doctor and as a minister, I'm the, I'm a the daughter of a minister and the sister of a minister. So I, I've, I've been to more funerals and I can count, so we're all going to die. But it's it, and I have compassion for people when that happens. But it's, it's really hard to accept when you know it, it didn't have to happen. Yes. It's harder to accept you. You
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (39:28):
Know what the patients say to me? They say, I want you to make this right. I, I realize that I lost my beloved husband, but can you please do something so that people don't ever have to go through this again?
Jenny Beth Martin (39:41):
Yeah. They, they know they can't get their loved one back in this case, this particular lady know she can't get her her loved one back. But we, in fighting that and getting, correcting the record, I think it is important for the sake of history, the government is sending out a very blaring signals that, that something like this could happen again very, very soon. Let's hope it doesn't. So if it, if it goes as long as the Spanish flu to Covid and it's another a hundred years, then I hope that we have put enough out there in the record that, that the, the future generations can look back and learn from people like you and try to prevent what happened here from happening again.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (40:27):
Yes. I think if we see another pandemic in the next year or few years, it's obviously going to be a manmade event. And yes, they do have, the technology gain of function has one purpose, and that is bio warfare. We know that we actually have a, uh, a new facility, I believe it's in Colorado, that is now, um, funding new research on bats, uh, to, for the purpose of gain of function. Now, that is illegal, but they are doing it anyway, uh, because the current government, uh, ignores the constitution. That's just the bottom line. And people must realize, and I hope they will, and I have faith that they will not swallow everything hook, line and sinker knowing, Hey, we've been through this once. We're not gonna let 'em pull this, uh, on us again, I hope we will take a very powerful stand against this. And I believe we will.
Jenny Beth Martin (41:22):
I believe we will too. And we've seen, I I was fighting it very, very early, um, and it took other people a bit longer to, to realize what was happening or to step up and speak out, or maybe they just didn't have the, the same kind of platform that, that I had. So for whatever reason, it may have taken them longer, but there are so many people now who are going, oh, wait, this was wrong. We can't let it happen again. And I do think that it certainly in the next year, five years, 10 years, there are enough people who are going to go, oh, no, you don't, you're not messing with us again, you're not touching us. You're not harming our children. I, I know that my children who are now in college and other people in their generation, they're not gonna want what happened to them in high school and early college or elementary school, middle school and high school to happen to their own children, I hope. But we just have to make sure that we don't become so numb to it that we forget it, but, and not fight it if, if it happens again quickly.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (42:25):
I agree. I think that we, we have to learn the lessons and the ongoing lessons that we must, uh, not only learn, but hopefully become experts in, and that is in recognizing how powerful a weapon is. Deception. Yes. Because in this time, uh, we are being deceived in so many ways, be being told anything the government tells us that is good for us probably is not. And people have to learn for themselves, investigate themselves, and educate themselves. And of course, the way to do that is to get off of mainstream media. And I am very happy to see that mainstream media is in decline right now. I mean, c n n is failing Fox News, uh, is, is file, uh, you know, they're failing also. And we are seeing the rise of platforms like this where people are going to alternative sources because they know they're going to get the truth.
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And if there is bias, uh, and there always is some bias, um, especially when you are taking a stand for something, you have to pick a side. At least if people can hear both sides, hopefully they will use the brain that God has given them and be able to, uh, analyze with a little bit of common sense and ask, is this good or is this evil? And of course, to come to that kind of a conclusion, we must have a standard. And to that, I appeal to the Bible, plain and simple. That is our standard. That's what made America great in the very first place.
Jenny Beth Martin (43:56):
Elaborate on that. How did that make America great in the first place?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (43:59):
Well, um, you know, it's funny, if you listen to some of the, the Jewish, uh, radio show hosts, they will even admit, they'll say, you know, it wasn't Judaism, Judaism, excuse me, that that made America great. It was Christianity. We have to give them credit. It was the Christians and the Christian principles that made America incredibly strong and powerful and prosperous. And the bottom line is, if we follow God's design, his ways for us, if we follow his standard, and we must have a, a standard. Because if you tell me something is good or evil, well, how do I know it's good and evil if I don't have a point of reference to say, oh, yeah, this agrees with that or not for me, absolutely. With the intense study I have had in the scriptures, specifically with sound Bible interpretation, that that has been my impetus throughout my, my training, uh, in seminary and Bible college. Um, it shows that there is a true standard. And if it gave us the country that it gave us once, then we ought to consider that the ultimate factor that is going to determine the survivability of America is shall we choose again to become one nation under God. That's the bottom line.
Jenny Beth Martin (45:21):
That that's very, very good. And I think that one thing the Bible shows us is that time, after time, after time, ruler, after ruler, king after king, you'll have a king who did the right thing and followed God's rules and commandments and another who did not. And during the time that, that the nation was following the commandments of God, there was a period of peace and prosperity, and then there'd be a new king. And they'd either follow or not, but when they did not, then war would happen. Famine would happen. There would, there would be all sorts of problems going on. And then they would get back to God's standard. And when they got back to God's standard, peace and prosperity would happen again. And reading that, it could be, it can make a person a little bit cynical because you think, oh, this, these problems that we face are never ending. It, it is historic and it's, um, a human nature type battle. Yes, that is always happening. There'll always be, they will always be here. Right. But it also gives me hope that if we can return to this and pay attention and, and get back to a place where there is a standard, where truth is truth, where people can acknowledge that there are certain basic truths as a standard Yes. Then, then I think that we can, that we, we can get back to that peace, that time of peace and prosperity again.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (46:49):
I agree. I agree completely. And we must do that. We must because America is on a crash course right now, and we, uh, have to pick a side. We have to decide who and what we are going to serve. And if we choose wrongly, we will suffer greatly.
Jenny Beth Martin (47:05):
And it won't just be each of us individually or our families or the citizens of our state or our country. If America fails, the consequences around the globe are, are things I think that we cannot even fathom.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (47:19):
That is true.
Jenny Beth Martin (47:20):
The, the liberty that America protects, not just here in America. It shines a beacon of light and hope, uh, for the entire world. And if it goes out here, I I think tyranny will happen everywhere.
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (47:34):
I agree with you. And I think that's why they are so dead set on destroying America. They must destroy us to proceed with their evil agenda.
Jenny Beth Martin (47:44):
Now what, so you've gone through these terrible things that have happened to you, and yet you, you haven't given up. I I, you're not in a cave hiding, building an underground shelter. Um, you're still fighting and you, you're now an activist and you have a radio platform. You have a radio program that you're doing now. Um, you, your life has changed yet again. So you've, you ha you're going to have even more accomplishments in in your life before you, you finish your life. Um, what is it like being an activist and and how do you feel about that? Well,
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (48:17):
I have to tell you, you know, when, when it comes to public speaking, I have never had a problem. I mean, I was a preacher before. I've spoken many times. I can speak to 10,000, a hundred thousand million people and have no trepidation whatsoever. But when I started my radio show with America out loud, it's called Unity without compromise. Um, I was very, very intimidated. I was talking to a microphone, and that was a challenge. But, um, of course, you know, I had my weak moments when I wanted to quit. And my darling wife kicked me in the behind and said, no, you are serving a purpose. You must pursue this. And she says, I'm getting better. And, uh, the message that I have, um, must be spoken and, and I, that keeps me in the fight. And of course, now I'm down here living in Arizona, and I have two grandchildren and another on the way, and I'm fighting for them.
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And, um, I am determined to not do what I thought I would do in retirement because I cannot waste my time just going fishing all the time, just gardening, raising my chickens, you know, being happy. Um, we are at a crisis point, and I also have to remember the oath that I took. And one of them, for example, in the military, was in oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States, and that had no expiration date. And so I'm determined to do that any way I can. So, um, I am expanding my radio program. I'm helping, uh, Malcolm, uh, with, uh, the voice of a nation and we are trying to reach everybody to expose the deception, to expose the, what the Bible calls the unfruitful works of darkness. And we want people to have nothing to do with them. And if we oppose them, they absolutely will collapse. And it's either them or us.
Jenny Beth Martin (50:19):
That would be a very good place to end. But I'm not going to Isha because I wanna ask you one more question. Do you think that the average citizen, the ordinary American, can make a difference with everything that we face and how big and powerful and mighty the, the federal government and any government can be when they come down on a person? Do you think that that the average person can make a difference? And do we have hope and are we going to be able to save our country?
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (50:48):
It's a very good question. And the answer is absolutely yes. The individual can and must make a difference. It has always been the grassroots efforts that have made us a strong nation. And if we dare to be the resistance to oppose the enemy, to keep speaking the truth, learn the truth and speak it, don't be silent. Uh, reach out to your circle of influence, your friends, your family members, and lovingly tell the truth. Don't berate them. Don't mock them. I know what you might be thinking at times. I think it too. But we have to remember that we, in the end, we have to show mercy, but at the same time, God has a hand of justice that is his, and that's called government. And when the government goes astray, as we are told in Romans 13, to abide by a just government, well, we must do that. And we have been given the instruction sheet on how to oppose a government gone bad. We ought to pay attention to that. And yes, every individual in America can make a huge difference.
Jenny Beth Martin (52:03):
Well, thank you very much Dr. Steve Tulip for being on the show today, for continuing to stand and fight and to have a smile on your face even after everything that you've gone through. And thank you so much for sharing your story so that other people can understand the kind of oppression doctors like you have faced just for standing up and speaking the truth. Thank you for being here
Dr. Steve LaTulippe (52:26):
Today. It's my pleasure, Jenny Beth. Thank you. It's been a pleasure.
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