The EPA endangerment finding rollback is the centerpiece of President Trump’s energy agenda, and Jenny Beth Martin’s guest says the deep state is quietly working to undermine it from inside the Justice Department. In this episode of The Jenny Beth Show, Jenny Beth sits down with Steve Milloy, attorney and senior fellow at the Energy and Environmental Legal Institute, for a deep dive into the legal fight that could decide the future of American energy. Milloy walks through how the Trump EPA rescinded the 2009 endangerment finding, the regulation he calls the mother of all climate rules, and why the Supreme Court’s West Virginia v. EPA decision means the agency never had authority to regulate greenhouse gases. Then he reveals the problem: a Department of Justice brief in Suncor Trust v. Boulder County that contradicts the administration’s own position and could be weaponized by the left in ongoing litigation. Jenny Beth and Steve also break down the data center energy crunch, the collapse of coal and your rising electric bill, foreign money flowing to green activist groups, the refrigerant rules driving up the cost of air conditioning, and what an incoming El Niño actually means. It’s a constitutional, taxpayer-focused look at energy policy and the administrative state, in plain language you can act on. Learn more at teapartypatriots.org and jennybethshow.com.
Steve Milloy is an attorney and senior fellow at the Energy and Environmental Legal Institute. A veteran of more than three decades of environmental and energy policy work, including time in the coal industry, he writes widely on climate regulation, the EPA, and the administrative state.
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Timestamps:
00:18 — Welcome and the episode’s focus on energy and the administrative state
00:46 — How the deep state is undermining the EPA at the Justice Department
01:12 — The endangerment finding rescinded in February
01:54 — The Supreme Court line: Massachusetts v. EPA to West Virginia v. EPA
03:48 — Suncor Trust v. Boulder County and federal preemption
05:57 — The contradictory DOJ brief that could backfire
09:45 — Should the brief be pulled, and should the attorneys be held accountable
11:38 — Why no one is overseeing the deep state lawyers
13:00 — The endangerment finding as the centerpiece of Trump’s energy agenda
15:38 — Data centers, Elon Musk, and the energy crunch
20:50 — Foreign money funding green activist groups
22:31 — Eminent domain and a Georgia family’s property fight
25:47 — The water fight over data centers
29:39 — States moving to ban data centers
36:09 — Reviving coal and what killed it
39:23 — Burning coal, exporting gas, and LNG terminals
40:46 — Wind, solar, and where NIMBY actually makes sense
43:10 — How conservatives ceded the environmental issue
46:09 — Clean air, clean water, and China’s record
49:01 — National parks, Agenda 21, and Alaska
52:55 — Refrigerant rules and why your soda is warm
55:48 — The AIM Act, the Kigali Amendment, and the ozone debate
1:00:16 — El Niño and what to actually worry about
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